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Maxtrac Spindle Lift for 2nd Gen Prerunners

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by markmatters, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Jun 24, 2013 at 10:42 AM
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    Ill give King a ring in a few min. If they are 14" springs, i would just drop to a 13", or if they are 13" drop to a 12" I would not go any less than a 600lb spring though. You look to be about 1-2" higher in the front.

    But like with Tom's truck, he has 13" 650lb springs and is sitting almost dead level with the same spindles, no glass.
     
  2. Jun 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM
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    In theory yes....You may even want to stick to 650lb. When on the vehicle it's a 2:1 ratio with preload. So a 1" shorter spring would tech. mean 2" lower on the vehicle. (which you can then adjust with the preload.

    Just spoke with King, They told me it's a 14" 600lb spring.

    If your okay with black coils, i think the Icon 13" 650lb coils would get you where you need. Or do a 13" King 600lb coil.

    The reason i say Icon is cause Tom's setup above is level and with the same spindle and rear as you so we know that is level. But the 13" King should work in theory as well the same way.

    In the end, your still gonna have the gap in the wheel/fender since the glass is made to fit 35's.
     
  3. Jun 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM
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    Ya, even custom length rear's don't add lift. The only thing that adds lift shock wise are coil overs or air shocks.



    And you may need to put a little pre load on it once it sags a bit. I honestly don't know since i have not seen it. In theory you should not have to, but you won't know for sure till it's on.
     
  4. Jun 24, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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    King may not make a 13" then. You will be ok with 12" just will have to preload it.

    I only have the Icon 13" 650's or any of the Eiback (grey) coils. But they dont make a 13" either.
     
  5. Jun 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM
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    I'm tellin' ya to just lift the rear one more inch. You've got 4" lift spindles up front and 3" lift leaves in the rear. You could probably hit up OMD and have him make us up some 4" lift leaves to match the front, but won't require hundred of pounds in the bed. I think changing coils is just going to effect performance for ya. Your working against the spindles...
     
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    True. But if he doesn't want to touch the rear then no other way really except for ditching the spindles.

    The one thing i was concerned about is that even changing the springs, there is a chance that it may not change it at all if it's the spindles that are just too high. May be the reason TC and Camburg both only do 3-3.5" spindles.
     
  7. Jun 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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    Yea I was under the impression that lift spindles is a whole different geometry so you can only go up, not down lol. I feel like lowering the truck around lift spindles either just won't work, or will just mess up the geometry as it is....I know for sure you'll be losing alot of Up travel by going down in coil length
     
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    YA, the front wont be able to go lower than 4" without having the alignment all messed up. You just cant tell from the pics if it can go down anymore via the coils. And really you wont know till you try. The back would be a safer way to do things.

    On Tom's truck it's level with the same rear as the OP. But he also has Icon's up front, so there are some differences.

    The coils are your call. In theory it should work, but like I said, you wont know till they are on. and that's a gamble. If it was me, i would address it in the rear by adding a 1" block or something with the shackles/leaf arch.

    Before ordering I would call King and pick their brain if you can, see if a 12" will work and if there are enough threads on the shock body to have the adjuster spun down that much. I do not have a set here to check with.
     
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    Yup! And i have 1" one's here in stock. They are like $65 for the pair. Blocks are not bad as long as your not getting over a 3" one. Then you get back axle hop/wrap and can get sketchy.
     
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    I just added the D29XL leaf to my Dakars about an hour ago. I am now measuring 25 3/4 center of the hub to bottom of the fender. Fronts are at 26 from hub center to bottom of the fender. Couple of pics:

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    Bout as dam close as you can get! Nice Tom!
     
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    Not if you cranked the C/O's up to 3" Should be close to level then.
     
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    The ride will still be better than stock. You could sell the spindles, buy a 650" spring, and not preload as much to get to 3" and still have a good ride and not be out any $$$. May make some $ depending on how much the spindles sell for.

    Or you could add that leaf Like Tom did above.

    Don't get down, your still a much better setup than stock. What your looking for is obtainable, Tom's truck above is proof of that. Just need to make sure what route will be the best before buying.
     
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    ^^^^^Makes no sense at all, but I'm not going to argue

    FYI, TC spindles are 3.5", Camburg's are 4", Maxtrac are 4", and CST's are 3.5".

    Oh and 600 lb coils suck on a 2wd (IMO), the 4x4 use the same rate coils and weigh significantly more. Manufacturers would have likely used a 550 lb coil to improve ride but to keep things simple they use 600s across the board.

    Oh well I'm out on this one since I don't know enough :p

    Its all good though, no hating. We all have our own opinions and that's what keeps the forums interesting.
     
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    Hows she ride with the additional leaf?
     
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    Ubolt flip kit and Wheelers bumps are on the way!
    It's a touch stiffer though I have only done the highspeed over speedbump test. It is still softer than I thought it was going to be so i'm happy with that.
     
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    I had maxtrac spindles installed in my double cab about 3-4 months ago. I'm only running spindles up front and a 1" block in the rear. Recently I started noticing a slight vibration coming from the rear when I accelerate, it doesn't happen all the time though. At first I was convinced it was the road that was jacked up and was causing it but after noticing it more I know it's coming from the back. Could it be because of the block?

    What would you guys recommend if I wanted to keep a slight "bro lean" like a have now? New leaf pack, AAL, TSB?
     
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    Have you tried crawling back there and tightening bolts up? First thing you should do on a vibe is check for loose anything. Also might be from blocks causing stress on the leaf packs.

    Worst case, pick yourself up some All-pro standard leafs. Those are about 3" lift leafs...should provide you with about an inch bro lean
     
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