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Creationism vs. Evolution

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Agent475, Oct 28, 2008.

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Creationism vs. Evolution (Not Public)

  1. Creationism

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  2. Evolution

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  3. Lil 'O Both

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  1. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:17 AM
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    TeamSarcasm

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    Dang I have some work to do in order to save the human race...:D
     
  2. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM
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    According to some research primates formed from other mammals around 85 million years ago. about 125 million years after pnagea began to break apart while most of the earth was broken apart into the continents we know today by 100-90 million years ago. So how were they the same species if they evolved completely isolated form each other?
     
  3. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM
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    I got a feeling we all came from one species and spread across the continents before Pangea broke apart. Living in different conditions caused genetic mutations which began to slowly separate us as races.

    Going through all this just leads us to run in circles because there is no answer. Evolution happens everyday. It can be seen when a fox eats a rabbit. The fox caught the slowest rabbit and the faster ones got away. The foxes continue to pick off all the slow rabbits until there are only a generation of fast rabbits breeding with fast rabbits. These lead to genetically FAST rabbit offspring (all the slow and chubby rabbits were picked off). Now all the slow foxes cannot grab the fast rabbits and only the fastest foxes get to eat; they CAN catch the fast rabbits. Only fast foxes breed with fast foxes, creating FAST fox offspring. Now we are back at square one....

    This cycle continually repeats and slowly animals with a desirable trait thrive and breed which leads to genetic mutations on a whole level. This is called the "Red Queen Hypothesis".
     
  4. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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    What do we have to offer besides something that directly stems from our logic?
     
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    Sources say that at one point, the entire human race was down to about 2,000 or so specimens. That's not a lot of people.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080424-humans-extinct.html

    So, we very well could have been wiped off the face of the planet. And this was long, long before the concept of any God.
     
  7. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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    How does each modified truck on here still look like a truck (more or less) after it's all said and done?

    The fundamental structure will not change very much, it will just become more efficient. And as humans, regardless where they were at any given moment, were doing roughly the same thing, if should evolve the same with differences due to environmental needs.
     
  8. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM
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    Strength to name one.

    You claim we couldn't survive as proof of something. Obviously we did, am I supposed to prove how that happened?
     
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    I give you, Darwinism
     
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    Correct! But the second you say "darwinism", creationists have a habit of shutting down.
     
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    Homo sapien wasn't around 100-90 million years ago. You are misunderstanding what evolution says about homo-sapien.
     
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    Are you really trying to keep us on topic? Haha this thread is all over the place. I'm merely adding credibility to the Bible which adds credibility to genesis.

    http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html

    353 prophecies fulfilled by one man. Prophecies were written about 500 years prior predicting His life, His deeds, His death, and His resurrection.
     
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    I can understand this to a point. How do we all look identical minus skin color but have all the same feature if we all evolved separately in different environments? People in the desert should look completely different from people in a tropical area or people in a snowy area. if they had 85 million years in each environment to adjust.

    we don't have entire races of people with hair covering every inch of them because they were living in the colder regions, why did we supposedly shed our hair during the "ice age"?

    conversely we look at animals that have extreme differences in different areas that are left to their own adaption as well.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:31 AM
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    then when did homo-sapien come around? and why was it dispersed on all continents with out land bridges or ways to get from one island to another?
     
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    Prophecies aren't like repeatable scientific methods.

    Since for me the bible is written by man, those prophecies hold zero proof of anything.
     
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    Don't all birds look "alike"?

    As groups were seperated their genes were isolated from the other groups, concentrating their features.

    As for the hair on skin issue, I go back to the brain. Why would we grow hair when we could keep warm with the fur of an animal we killed? If there is no need imposed on the body no change will happen.
     
  17. Jun 27, 2013 at 10:35 AM
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    Exactly, why would we shed our hair only to have to kill something to wear it as clothes to keep warm???

    Also we have Emus and Ostriches and swallows. We dont have races of people that are the size of babies and races of people the size the hulk.
     
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    You didn't read my last link obviously? Africa 150,000 years ago homo-sapien. All other humanoids from around the world died out. If you really want to know, start googling. I'm not going to teach you from your oblivious start point.

    The continents were as they are now only 150,000 years ago.

    Homo-sapien did not develop in multiple places in isolation, all homo-sapiens came from Africa.
     
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    Here's another quandary I posed some time ago:

    So the debate in this thread is whether "God" (or another God-like entity) created all life on Earth, and possibly in the Universe. Also, as a test of faith, God will not prove His existence, and therefore it is up to the living to decide whether to believe in Him or risk eternal damnation. Here's the thing...

    Plants are alive. Do plants believe in God?

    Dogs are alive. Do dogs believe in God?

    Dolphins are alive, giraffes are alive, algae is alive, plankton is alive, condors are alive, platypus are alive, snails are alive, bison are alive... I think you see where I'm going here.

    I have a hard time reconciling that any of these creatures worship in any way. Is Hell just a rolling mass of biological material of heathen animals and plants?

    If plants and animals had the power of self-awareness, would they decide that there must be a Creator? Since they don't, are they doomed? Is ignorance a defense in their case?
     
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    If humans weren't so fucking awesome and able to dominate everything, then we may have had completely different looking groups of humans.
     
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