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Creationism vs. Evolution

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Creationism vs. Evolution (Not Public)

  1. Creationism

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  2. Evolution

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  1. Jul 10, 2013 at 12:02 PM
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    Cr250jumper

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    Lol how is that proof of anything? The bone healed but how is that proof of god? You guys really need to brush up what the word fact really means. Your story is wonderful and glad she is better though
     
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  2. Jul 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM
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    You son - were told a far fetched story :rolleyes:
     
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    You think God did that? Disease entered the world because we chose to invite it AGAINST Gods will. That's no ones fault but our own. And I really believe God grieves for those. There is nothing in scripture that leads me to believe that He enjoys our death, but alternately, there is EVERY evidence that he grieves for His fallen people.
     
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    I have seen a far-fetched story. And it's far from the only one. Brain cancer healed, tumors removed, swelling in joints visibly removed. All things seem with my own eyes
     
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    so again - god is given praise for all healing and wondrous stories where people live against the odds.

    But why isn't he then blamed for all of those who perish or break bones etc?? I mean if he can heal people (which you clearly believe), then why doesn't he heal each and every person down to the last chipped tooth. ??

    I have news for you, (apparently god invented gravity), and gravity is what broke my hip years ago. :D
     
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    Larry

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    The people who ask where is God when tragedy or illness strikes...are the same people who refuse to invite God into their life when the grass is green, the sky is blue, and the living is easy.
     
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    And why didn't he just keep her from breaking her arm in the first place if he was just going to step in and heal it anyway?
     
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    God is all powerful, as I believe it, so why doesn't God turn us inside out and let us feel every bit of the pain as he restructures our skeleton from the inside out?
    I am not infinitely powerful, nor infinitely creative, and I just came up with that. God is both of those things and He chooses not to, so I think that's evidence enough of His goodness. God can heal all things, yes, but your dilemma is that you feel like god CAUSED all those things. God can use our hardships to grow us spiritually (think Job) AND redeem them to bring glory to Himself through that story (think Job again). God is not the originator of pain, however he's the only one I know that can turn pain into Glory.
     
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    I feel like this got way off topic.
     
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    lol "amen"
     
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    Miracles build faith. Both in the individual and in the church as people see it. Preventing it is fine, but healing it helps all of us.
     
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    Wasn't me! :p
     
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    Just a bunch of old crap
    Where's the proof. I don't just take someone's word for it anymore. I've seen too many televangelists tell the same types of stories but with no backup, and the sheeple start fainting in the aisles with blind faith and require no credibility from their clergy on these stories.

    Yes, bones can start to re-fuse together in a matter of just a couple days. Fully re-fused? No. That's why I call BS on the one week timeframe on a claim of full recovery.

    Show me the medical records and make me a believer.
     
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    You are wrong... I do not blame god or anyone else for my harm nor harm done to others. AT THE SAME TIME, when i feel happy or i win the lottery i don't drop to me knees and yell "GLORY TO GOD". If i crash on my bike it was my fault, if i win a race it was my endurance and skill that got me there.
     
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    do you believe in magic...? I don't...lol

    Give Over Dollars, im just sayin'
     
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    there is or will be an explanation behind everything, most of the time it's outside the box.
     
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    Who told you that chemo stops bone growth? Science? Why do you only listen to science when it fits your agenda?
     
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    ooooohhhhhh well said sir :cool:
     
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    there is no box, what you see is your reality, my dreams take me places that the world over hasn't seen, selling hope is not divine calling.
     
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