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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Jul 28, 2013 at 8:36 PM
    santabarbarataco

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    you really have no clue what your talking about...
     
  2. Jul 28, 2013 at 8:39 PM
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    People have been using hrew for years. May not be Dom but its still a strong alternative. This debate has been had 101010038 times
     
  3. Jul 28, 2013 at 8:39 PM
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  4. Jul 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM
    Conman117

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    I'll probably end up going with DOM, but the stuff thats currently on my truck is 1.875 OD and 1.5 ID pipe. It was definitely a good start for me since I had limited(ish) funds when I built the truck. Its 3/16" wall, so its plenty strong for bed cage and bumpers, though I would never use it on a cab cage.
    Anyway, thanks for the input, I'll go order more :)
     
  5. Jul 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM
    Hiatt1991

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  6. Jul 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM
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    Are you not running a bump stop or a limit strap?
     
  7. Jul 29, 2013 at 1:23 AM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/airdogs-2012-prerunner-access-cab-slow-build.264263/
    He's got King hydro bumps hiding behind the shock.
     
  8. Jul 29, 2013 at 1:25 AM
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    I see it now :thumbsup: Is the coil suppose to compress all the way down like that?
     
  9. Jul 29, 2013 at 1:30 AM
    Airdog

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    It will when your getting airborne like he was.
     
  10. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:14 AM
    NwiTACO

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    Stronger materials make up for poor engineering of a cage. Proper design and engineering takes into consideration the materials being used.

    That being said I have seen many cages out of pipe that I would rather have protect me than a lot of the DOM cages I have seen. Just because you can buy DOM doesn't mean you can properly design and build a cage.

    The bottom line is its about the design and engineering of a cage, not the material.

    Now if it needs to get tagged, that's a different story, but its still only required because "someone said so" and doesn't mean it couldn't be just as strong at less expensive price. Weight savings does come into play as well when using stronger materials.

    But the people who say you have to use one or the other really don't fully understand engineering principles.
     
  11. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:24 AM
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    Or they do and know the way it should be done.
     
  12. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:31 AM
    Mr Salty

    Mr Salty "Give up the good to go for the great"

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    Was wondering about the traps too.

    And I it does seem the coils are fully compressing, perhaps bumps need to come down a bit, but sometimes its hard telling on videos.
     
  13. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:35 AM
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    Funny how its always the keyboard jockies who always think they know better than the actual engineers.
     
  14. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:45 AM
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    Mr Salty "Give up the good to go for the great"

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    I get what you are saying completely, anyone build I balsa wood bridge in middleschool/highschool before? Design with consideration of materials and proven welds equals win.
     
  15. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:46 AM
    NwiTACO

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    Engineering involves proper material selection for the loading anticipated. It also involves material availability, and material cost, space and time constraints, etc.

    Taking everything into account an engineer makes the decisions on what to use where, when not governed by code. Codes can even be silly sometimes, but you have to follow the rules.

    Just like tagging a cage, if you want to race in their events, you must follow their rules. That doesn't mean their rules are the only right way.

    If you're not getting it tagged requiring DOM or chromo you're wasting money using more expensive materials.
     
  16. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:57 AM
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    They come close but they dont compress all the way. And I have king hydro bumps and DJ safety double ply limit straps :D
     
  17. Jul 29, 2013 at 8:29 AM
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    I did in 5th grade. My bridge weighed 23 grams and held 180 lbs of force, LOL.

    http://youtu.be/EPpks23g_fo

    100% HREW Tubing that I built in 2005 when I barely knew anything. And before all the shit talk starts about rolling while going in a straight line, it was before I had upgraded the power steering and we hit a hole just the right way that it ripped the wheel out of my hand, nothing I could do after that. It was at 65 mph.
     
  18. Jul 29, 2013 at 8:33 AM
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    Keyboard jockey? Wow...
    So let me ask you, did you help build one of Dan Vance's trucks? Perhaps you participated in backhalfing Bozen's? Perhaps you have 20 something welding certificates as well?
    Maybe get your facts strait before you turn into a dick. Landon probably caged his first truck when you were still in diapers.

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  19. Jul 29, 2013 at 8:39 AM
    NwiTACO

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    Nice vid. Thanks for proving you don't have to have a DOM cage to have a functional cage. Its all about the proper design and triangulation, and then of course execution :p
     
  20. Jul 29, 2013 at 9:15 AM
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    But the question is: knowing what you know now would you build a cage out of HREW?
     

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