Colorado B.S. Thread

Put it in your wallet, too

 

The units you buy anywhere online or locally are logged to a hard drive inside a console about the size of a cable box. The setup is super easy with these systems, I have one myself. The video and power cables are bundled so you don't need a power source at the camera location. I have 7 cameras and it stores 3 weeks worth of data before it begins to write over the data. You can offload to a server, but I don't have the need.

Sends emails to my phone with 3 snapshots if there is movement when I don't expect it. Set the schedule, pick the area on the camera you say "nothing should be moving here during x time". If there is, it takes pictures and mails them to you. We like it for sense of security and to keep an eye on the pets when we are away.

 

I get what you're saying and in a perfect world this would be the case. We don't live in a perfect world though. Far from it. You and I can debate all day long how the world 'should be' but that doesn't change how it is.

You say I shouldn't have to 'live this way' but the fact of the matter is unless we want to be a victim, in all aspects of the word.. not just having small items stolen, then we need to take responsibility for our actions. I don't mind it at all actually and I feel MUCH safer overall now that I've opened my eyes to reality than I did years ago when I lived as most people do... believe that all people are good and your odds of having something happen to you are slim to none. So while people are shunning their role in being victimized and blaming society I still have all my shit and life is good.

 

I would stay away from those cameras and anything from CostCo or any of the big box stores. Your best bet is to find a deal for genuine Foscam cameras. One of the popular models was $65 shipped the other day and you can do quite a lot with them. They have Wireless IP (only need power outlet to get them on your network) 2-way audio, you can pan them around using your PC or smartphone, view the live video from your PC or Smartphone, Email on motion (6 images), upload on motion, DVR with your smartphone or from a PC or upload to a server or whatever. All sorts of options and one of the best pictures for the money that you will find. On top of that you can add them one at a time as budget permits. I install these all the time and they're the best way to go IMO.

 

I keep insurance and registration in the glove box, but it's sandwiched in the middle of the owners manual. I added a small piece of tape to keep it in place should they take the time to turn the manual upside down and shake it to get stuff to fall out.

 

You are still a victim... of a society that has twisted right from wrong and is holding you responsible to take action to minimize the wrong from occurring. I live in the same society and I too take precautions but fact of the matter remains simple - It is wrong to steal possessions from another person.

It's BS that I have to have a separate key chain to hold each key for locks that I have to keep my possessions safe. It's BS you have to go to the extent of installing a high end security camera system on your house to feel SAFER. Although I know you are into a lot of tech so possibly that is partial hobby too.

And you are right we will end up debating this all day. I see your point of view and I believe you see mine so... time to move on to some BS.

 

This guy could really use a Snickers...

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ire-dumpster-from-colorado-springs-restaurant

 

Completely agree. I have found a slick spot for mine that you would never know it's there.

 

I will prolly do cameras at my new house just because. So OST your assistance may be needed. But prolly not as high tech and crazy like you got. Gotta be balling on a budget. Kinda gonna blow my wad on this house purchase.

 

Tangos collar? No one is taking it stashed there.

 

Guessing you just got your new spot huh?

 

my insurance and registration is in my wallet

 

Like I said, you're getting what I'm saying wrong. I choose to take steps to not be a victim because I don't want to be. Stating that stealing or killing is wrong is to state the obvious and we all understand that. Goes without saying. It doesn't change that it STILL happens and there are obvious steps you can take to keep from being victimized. Don't walk down dark alleys in shady neighborhoods alone near bars at 2:00am. That doesn't mean if you do that a criminal has free reign to do whatever they want because you did because that's wrong. As we stated several times already.

What I'm saying is that I try to make wise decisions to avoid being victimized. I couldn't give a hobo's crap what society says because I'm sure as shit not going to leave my stuff out or put myself in bad situations to somehow be able to say 'you were wrong for what you did' once the crime is done. We all have a responsibility to take measures to limit crime being done to us. The sooner more people realize that criminals look for low hanging fruit & take steps they can to avoid being victimized the better we will all be. I never said 'Hey, that guy deserved to have your stuff because you left it out' did I? There are two sides to crime. There is the criminal element which you cannot control no matter what... as much as tree huggers will try to convince you otherwise. In movies you can talk a mugger into walking away. In reality you get raped, shot in the face or both. So, since we both agree that crime is wrong I'm talking about the other side of the coin... the part YOU can control. All I'm doing is stating that more people could take more action to avoid being victimized.

If you are going through a green light and get T-Boned by a drunk driver who ran a red the other person is in-the-wrong, correct? What I'm saying is to approach intersections carefully and look both ways and assume everyone is drunk and out to hit you as you approach and be ready to take action to avoid the collision. Sure, sometimes it's just vehicle damage that gets repaired w/o missing a beat. Other times it results in injury that causes you pain for the rest of your life. Either way, wouldn't you feel better knowing that you're doing all YOU can do to avoid the accident to begin with?

Not sure how what I've said is getting twisting into excusing criminals as if they're mutually exclusive somehow. I agree that it's BS but that's the world we live in. You can accept said BS and control what you can control in an effort to not be a victim or you can deny the BS and try to buck the system by leaving yourself open for crime. Just don't be surprised when it happens and hopefully you live to regret it. There are some seriously fucked up people on the world and as we create more laws to protect idiots from themselves and they procreate and continue to allow complete deflection of responsibility as a society those numbers will increase.

 

Spotted this at 104th and Sheridan. Wheels aren't really my style but looked pretty damn clean.

 

Ost taking responsibility and situational preparedness as you suggested in your example above I agree with you for so many situations. I simply do not agree with this logic on stealing. Maybe it's flawed on my part but the law and value are plain simple. And if we could make the punishment fit the crime in this world then maybe there would be less crime from stealing. It's a place to start at least.

 

I've seen it before as well. I didn't think it was someone on here though.

 

So which can you enact right now:

1) getting law makers to create more laws that are harsher for those who steal and systematically changing law enforcement in order to catch every criminal and then systematically change the legal system so that those caught actually get the punishments that are spelled out for being convicted of said crimes and then once all that's done changing generational opinion of crime and how it's taught to generations coming up.

or

2) Not leaving your shit law around in the open tempting those who would take it or taking other small immediate steps to otherwise leave yourself less susceptible to crime.

Pretty easy decision I would say. I get what you're saying but think we should be a little more realistic on what things we can control right now. Had he put his stand inside his house or closed garage would he still have it? Nothing I have said says that it gives anyone the right to take it but that's not the point because none of us can control the free will or actions of another human.

 

If someone steals from me, because I left something open to be stolen, I will take responsibility.

In the same way, if someone steals from me, they should take responsibility for their broken leg. Since they shouldn't have stolen from me in the first place.