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2015 Tacoma: No more single cab

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 2011Streaker, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. Aug 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM
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    Not a big help... I know the body style breakdown is available, but I can't find it.
    I heard somewhere that the RC is only about 15%, Doublecab is over 50%.
     
  2. Aug 4, 2013 at 4:57 PM
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    That makes me so thankful when I bought mine last year, it was right around this weekend in August. They had 4 regular cab 4x4s on the lot.

    1 week later, all gone. Lol...


    Maybe all this is false, and we see the return of a manual transmission and buckets!

    A man can dream right!

    Although right now with my 5 speed doing what it's doing, I may be putting a deposit down on a 2014, :D
     
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  3. Aug 4, 2013 at 5:11 PM
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  4. Aug 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM
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    In the September/October 2013 issue of Truck Trend, there is an editorial piece regarding the future of the extended cab. Apparently side impact standards for 2016 model year trucks will be much higher, so trucks without permanent b-pillars will need to be beefed up significantly.

    They point to the Full Size trucks leaving the traditional extended cabs with now front-hinged smaller doors. I believe only Ford is left (and Nissan Titan, but they're too small in volume anyways) and then Ford should be all new for 2015 model year, and potentially follow everyone else to the front-hinged extended cab doors.

    So, potentially no more regular cabs, and traditional extended cabs may be difficult.

    Everyone thought Honda was crazy for just having 4 door crew cab Ridgelines (along with a wacky design), but that looks like what the market is heading towards sadly
     
  5. Aug 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM
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    Wow, now that makes some sense,

    Hmmm, this is very interesting,
     
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    It seems to make sense, yet it seems to be addressing the issue of the longer distance involved in a extended cab's inability to absorb impact at the zone between front and rear areas B pillar.
    Since a Reg cab has no such area, it just goes to the same front door to a substantial rear corner. Both trucks at this point have the same front and rear corner, but 15" more added for access cabs. The point being for the same front doors and corners, there wont be a difference.

    I suspect the article addresses access type cabs only, reg cabs are sort of a distraction.
     
  7. Aug 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM
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    Yea really, in 10 years we will all be in HANS devices, helmets, roll cages, location transponders, only lime/orange colored, and have to be EMT's just to back out onto a city street. Oh, and have to float too, why not, its saferer.
     
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    I wonder if this federal crud is the reason Honda dropped the Element,

    It's rear doors opened and closed the same way,

     
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    4-door crew cab wasn't new when the Ridgeline came out. The wacky design was to blame for the low sales. In fact Honda sells fewer Ridgelines every year than regular cab Tacos. Expect the Ridgeline to disappear once the new federal standards come into effect.
     
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    Regular cab would easily exceed the strength of a double cab.
    It doesn't have "B" pillars... it has a WALL!
    Much stronger than just a couple of pillars behind the front seat.

    So side impact would be a non-issue. The only possible issue is the lack of room in the back for the front seat to "crumple" into... but in practice, the cabin is a solid cage and the crumple zones are in front of and behind it.
    I'm not too comfortable with the thought that my seat might be intended to crumple into the rear seat passenger.
     
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    It's not new, it's not Mexico
    LMAO I'm sure the folks in back aren't too happy about that either!
     
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    I didn't mean to say that side impact standards itself would be the reason for the regular cab going away. i meant to bring up that it seems to make the access cabs vulnerable, which, if paired with regular cabs going away (due to smaller market and margins), would leave us with the double cabs only.
     
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    Not necessarily. Access and Double Cabs may cost proportionately more to produce.. higher selling price doesn't always equal higher profit. Would be interesting to see numbers.
     
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    Besides isn't the only reg cab competitor the now discontinued Ranger? Would make more sense from a profitability standpoint (to me anyway) to maintain reg cab production and be the only option in the midsize category.

    I would bet the numbers didn't support that effort. Profit is still profit, even when it's lesser.
     
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    I think the extra profit comes from the TRD levels associated with DC/AC and not found on a reg cab.

    So the profit margin question might be, "Will putting the 4L and the 2 TRD levels on a reg cab, possibly double reg cab sales and gain more profit margin?"
     
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    Wouldn't make sense to throw the highest dollar options on the cheapest possible platform.

    The mass market for Tacoma's are not offroaders. The TRD packages have appeal because somewhere in the list of upgrades are a few that more buyers would want enough to spend the extra coin for. If you're looking at a $4k upgrade on a $18k truck, that's a pretty sizable price increase. If you're looking at a $4k upgrade on a $30k truck, it's not such a difference, especially in monthly payments.

    Reg cab is the base level Tacoma, which is different than the base level trim vs SR5/TRD.. not a lot of people want the cheapest truck with the most expensive trim option.
     
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    Its not about making sense, its abut making cents....dollars
    Making a theoretical profit on any platform makes sense, look at all the high profit margin people pay for sporting goods, they'll pay a 200% + markup and gripe about their water bill.
    So adding a $4k TRD option, on a $21k truck isn't much different than on a $25K truck (access cab).
    I could get an access cab for $29k w TRD offroad.
     
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    That's going to ruffle some feathers. I think much more than the regular cab, but it should be in a new thread. I want to see what an SR package is now. S-Runner or SR5 or something new?
     

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