1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Intake Manifold Spacer 4.0l Coming!

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by highaltitude, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. Aug 21, 2013 at 4:17 PM
    #1201
    Chakraj

    Chakraj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Member:
    #106620
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2013 DCSB TRD SPORT v6 auto 4x4
    Badgers, I don't need no stinking Badgers.
    just paid via paypal. heres my conf # 1FS3705583474364V
     
  2. Aug 21, 2013 at 4:34 PM
    #1202
    highaltitude

    highaltitude [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Member:
    #72178
    Messages:
    405
    Gender:
    Male
    Asheville, NC
    2017 ZR2
    Got it! Sent an email to your PayPal address with some install instructions. Thanks for your purchase!
     
  3. Aug 21, 2013 at 4:36 PM
    #1203
    highaltitude

    highaltitude [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Member:
    #72178
    Messages:
    405
    Gender:
    Male
    Asheville, NC
    2017 ZR2
    Honestly no idea. Made a half inch, it worked, didnt really try other thicknesses. Im sure there could be an optimum thickness up or down, but it really depends on where you're looking to gain power. Longer runners = low/mid range power, shorter runners = top end power.
     
  4. Aug 21, 2013 at 4:39 PM
    #1204
    BostonBilly

    BostonBilly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2012
    Member:
    #70435
    Messages:
    9,094
    Gender:
    Male
    Easton
    Vehicle:
    2018 Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon
    Maybe I am wrong but that statement to me proves that you dont care and are in it for the money. As long as people buy this untested product it will never be tested. Why wouldnt you want the optimum thinkness or offer different thicknesses? Answer,,,,,,,,,,, cause you dont have to
     
  5. Aug 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM
    #1205
    emelianenkov

    emelianenkov Santa/Alex Emeliahoweveryouspellhislastname

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Member:
    #78151
    Messages:
    21,400
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    NORTH POLE
    Vehicle:
    Alex's Shitbox Emporium
    NE Special Rust Edition
    I'd be interested in trying 3/4" or 1". Need me moar crawling power
     
  6. Aug 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM
    #1206
    hirod

    hirod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Member:
    #105540
    Messages:
    1,245
    Gender:
    Male
    hawaii
    Vehicle:
    16 double cab short bed OR
    Guessing maybe a good place to start would be looking at how much more room in terms of hood clearance, interference from other components, and slack in attachments like hoses and wiring. Are there negative effects of too long aside from a loss of hp in the higher rpms? Anyone who's installed this believe two spacers wouldn't fit? Thinking might have to put a spacer for the aircleaner support in the front. Personally I use torque more than hp. Never really have the opportunity to floor it nowadays and won't notice the loss of high end. Anyone that has this have any feedback? Thanks
     
    Captain Stabbin likes this.
  7. Aug 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
    #1207
    emelianenkov

    emelianenkov Santa/Alex Emeliahoweveryouspellhislastname

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Member:
    #78151
    Messages:
    21,400
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    NORTH POLE
    Vehicle:
    Alex's Shitbox Emporium
    NE Special Rust Edition
    I have a 1.25" body lift, so I have another 1"+ to go before I hit my max.

    I know getting the wiring to fit might be a pain, but I wouldn't mind trying something taller. More torque the better
     
  8. Aug 22, 2013 at 9:44 AM
    #1208
    luka

    luka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Member:
    #58428
    Messages:
    3,459
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Kailua, HI
    Vehicle:
    Prerunner -> 4WD Converted
    Pelfreybilt, Warn, BAMF, DTRL toggle on/off, FJ OEM Fog/Aux Light switches, 2012 lower center console swap, wired in auto-dimming rear view mirror, Wet-Okole inside, Weathertech , Rigid, Tint, Roto-Pax, Bestop, OME, Extended SS brake lines, TRD TX Pro/Baja Graphite 16" Rims
    2 or a 1" spacer might be a problem. I think the hood would still close, but you'd have to get longer hoses for the throttle body, and another at the back of the manifold. also have to fab longer brackets(A,B,C) that stabilize the manifold to the block.


    true there aren't dyno's completed :deadhorse:

    from what i've been tracking, i've seen a difference. The biggest factor is still constant throttle control
     
  9. Aug 22, 2013 at 7:16 PM
    #1209
    hirod

    hirod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Member:
    #105540
    Messages:
    1,245
    Gender:
    Male
    hawaii
    Vehicle:
    16 double cab short bed OR
    Ah. That's what I was worried about. Kind of a lot of work to try get two in. Were the wires and hoses kinda tight installing the half inch spacer?

    Don't actually care about dyno results cause I'm looking for the range that I drive in day to day. I don't think I break 2k rpm 90% of the time. When you're dynoing you're flooring it. More interested in the feedback you've provided. Whether or not people notice it driving around town. Or in your case when you jump on h3. I'm impressed with your gas mileage. I don't even go over the hill and I only get about 18 mpg. Never broken 19. Thanks for the feedback.

    Tempted to pick one of these up but I also really want to pick up an e fan. Choices choices.
     
  10. Aug 22, 2013 at 10:06 PM
    #1210
    steezinstangl

    steezinstangl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    Member:
    #86667
    Messages:
    451
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Elk Grove, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2008 FJ Cruiser
    gas mpg with the spacer is damn good. driving conservatively (only getting on the gas a couple times) on this tank I'm averaging 17.7 in the city.
     
  11. Aug 23, 2013 at 3:58 AM
    #1211
    highaltitude

    highaltitude [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Member:
    #72178
    Messages:
    405
    Gender:
    Male
    Asheville, NC
    2017 ZR2
    My 1/2" spacer was proven on a dyno to show excellent gains with the Nissan. The spacer made by NST for Toyota was made of 1/2" and proven on the dyno to work. I made mine of 1/2" based on that criteria. If you would like to fork out the $ to have multiple sizes made, and multiple dynos run, I'll make all the spacers you want to test on, and you can find the optimum. What really is the optimum anyway? What you may want out of the spacer may not be what another wants. LIke I stated, it depends on where you want gains and dont. This size showed to be an overall effective spacer for everyone. It doesnt take away too much up top, but gains nicely in the mid/low end. I'm not here just for the money. With a few hundred sold of the Nissan and the small number of these Toyotas so far, I have not had any complaints on the gains that are achieved. You may not agree with the process I have done to bring this to you guys but it was for everyone's benefit. If all I wanted to do was make money, this wouldnt be it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2013
  12. Aug 23, 2013 at 9:57 AM
    #1212
    luka

    luka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Member:
    #58428
    Messages:
    3,459
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Kailua, HI
    Vehicle:
    Prerunner -> 4WD Converted
    Pelfreybilt, Warn, BAMF, DTRL toggle on/off, FJ OEM Fog/Aux Light switches, 2012 lower center console swap, wired in auto-dimming rear view mirror, Wet-Okole inside, Weathertech , Rigid, Tint, Roto-Pax, Bestop, OME, Extended SS brake lines, TRD TX Pro/Baja Graphite 16" Rims

    Not that much work to install 2 in place of one. The 2 lines to the throttle body are easy to replace as is the air line at the back of the manifold. the electrical harnesses should clear but it might be tight. If anything, may have to extend the harness near the back.

    If I can keep it around 1500-1800 rpms my ultragauge instant mpg display will hit over 30mpg on flat ground cruising. My mpg avg from Aug 3(a few weeks prior to installing) to now is between 18.8 & 19 MPG with ~500lbs of bumper/winch/skids/tools.

    I managed to find the sweet spot going up H3 in 4th gear(Auto) showing a 16.5mpg instant avg while slowly accelerating from 60mpg up hill. Usually the same spot will show 10mpg on the instant avg prior to the spacer.
     
  13. Aug 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM
    #1213
    luka

    luka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Member:
    #58428
    Messages:
    3,459
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Kailua, HI
    Vehicle:
    Prerunner -> 4WD Converted
    Pelfreybilt, Warn, BAMF, DTRL toggle on/off, FJ OEM Fog/Aux Light switches, 2012 lower center console swap, wired in auto-dimming rear view mirror, Wet-Okole inside, Weathertech , Rigid, Tint, Roto-Pax, Bestop, OME, Extended SS brake lines, TRD TX Pro/Baja Graphite 16" Rims
    averaged about 25.3mpg for the first 60ish miles after filling up to full with a full cooler and camping gear. Constant speed of 30-40mph with flat ground, rpm's around 1k the whole way.

    hills and traffic will net less of a gain, but for long casual drives, this spacer is doing it's job.

    :cool:
     
  14. Aug 25, 2013 at 3:32 PM
    #1214
    hirod

    hirod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Member:
    #105540
    Messages:
    1,245
    Gender:
    Male
    hawaii
    Vehicle:
    16 double cab short bed OR
    Dammit. I was going to stop modding for this year so I could save up for my snug top. But ... even if I gain 1 mpg, this puppy pays for itself in little more than a year. So its not spending, its saving ... gonna keep repeating that to myself.
     
  15. Sep 6, 2013 at 2:55 AM
    #1215
    PMK

    PMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2010
    Member:
    #32186
    Messages:
    1,358
    Gender:
    Male
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    10 DCLB TRD Sport
    White, debadged, Mudflaps removed, ICON 2.5 in front, 2.0 in rear, all 4 corners have reservoirs, Spidertrax wheel spacers all around, BAMF bolt on sliders, Avid lightbar, oem transmission cooler converted to power steering cooler, aftermarket transmission cooler eliminating all oem transmission cooler stuff, remote mounted spin on transmission fluid filter TrueTrac rear differential, rear diff housing vented and filtered into left side bed box, URD MAF calibrator, Volant intake scoop into oem airbox, second filter removed, airbox internals smoothed, blended and polished throttle body, NST intake manifold spacer, Wet Okolee set covers, WeatherTech Digital Fit mats, inexpensive JVC single DIN, Scangage, AVS Stepshield door sill protectors, Doug Thorley Long Tube Headers, URD Y pipe with O2 sims.
    I hear you on this one. With help, I found a used NST Spacer I was able to pick up.

    PK
     
  16. Sep 9, 2013 at 11:16 AM
    #1216
    Chakraj

    Chakraj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Member:
    #106620
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2013 DCSB TRD SPORT v6 auto 4x4
    Badgers, I don't need no stinking Badgers.
    Any check engine lights? is everyone still running the spacer or have you removed it?
     
  17. Sep 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM
    #1217
    LowerBost

    LowerBost Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2013
    Member:
    #106273
    Messages:
    320
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma Sport
    Old Man Emu Lift w/ Dakars and Billsteins, K&N Intake, Throttle Body Space, Front Bull Bar, Side Rails, Painted Stock Rims, Bilstein 5100 Front Shocks, Third Brake Light Cover, Satoshi Grill Mod, BHLM Mod
    How about install? Pretty easy?
     
  18. Sep 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM
    #1218
    luka

    luka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Member:
    #58428
    Messages:
    3,459
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Kailua, HI
    Vehicle:
    Prerunner -> 4WD Converted
    Pelfreybilt, Warn, BAMF, DTRL toggle on/off, FJ OEM Fog/Aux Light switches, 2012 lower center console swap, wired in auto-dimming rear view mirror, Wet-Okole inside, Weathertech , Rigid, Tint, Roto-Pax, Bestop, OME, Extended SS brake lines, TRD TX Pro/Baja Graphite 16" Rims
    no lights and still running.

    not bad, easy if you're handy with tools. the fitment of the main harness got a little tighter putting all the little clips back on because of the 1/2" movement.

    I had to stand on my bumper for mine because the grill guard limited my reach :D
     
  19. Sep 9, 2013 at 12:13 PM
    #1219
    emelianenkov

    emelianenkov Santa/Alex Emeliahoweveryouspellhislastname

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Member:
    #78151
    Messages:
    21,400
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    NORTH POLE
    Vehicle:
    Alex's Shitbox Emporium
    NE Special Rust Edition
    I stood on the winch plate. Made for an EASY install lol
     
  20. Sep 18, 2013 at 8:12 AM
    #1220
    3ps14

    3ps14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Member:
    #56803
    Messages:
    317
    Gender:
    Male
    Orange, CA
    Vehicle:
    05 trd sport dc
    OME 885s, Black FJ Alloys, TSB AAL, BHLM, Satoshi, Hellas, Black Valence, 6k HIDs
    I'm thinking about purchasing one, however I need some reinforcement before I jump the gun. I commute almost everyday to school 60+ miles roundtrip and the mpg gains would definitely help.. Should I do it?!
     

Products Discussed in

To Top