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Bully Dog GT-T+ Toyota Tuner

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by tcBob, Aug 28, 2013.

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  1. Oct 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM
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    A couple issues:

    Page 3 lists compatability, and it seems as though the only 2012-2013-2014 models that are supported are one's that are supercharged. NA support is listed as being 09-11. Will this work in a 2013 NA 4.0?


    Second, you said it. It's a chart.....not real dyno results. I can make a chart saying that a K&N CAI yields 200hp, but there's no evidence there to back that up.

    The only reason I'm saying that is because you guys have shown dyno runs for a SC Tundra, a SC Taco, but no NA Taco...... If you've done the testing, then why wasn't it recorded and shown like the others? To me, those numbers seem like a guess.



    There's my questions. Looking forward to answers.
     
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  2. Oct 1, 2013 at 10:09 PM
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    As of right now for n/a only 09-11 is supported. It's just a matter of getting the other trucks in to make sure everything will work fine.

    Yes, I guess you could do that... But you wouldn't publish it in a technical product information sheet would you? :) These are correct numbers. I'm not sure why there is not a proper dyno sheet up of the n/a numbers. It might just be that when the dyno charts were created we didn't have one with us. If you'd like, I can get a direct answer about why a dyno chart wasn't created.
     
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  3. Oct 2, 2013 at 5:47 AM
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    The other issue with the charts that you've posted is that the NA chart reflects both the 5.7 amd the 4.0. That leads me to believe that you are getting the same gains from both the 5.7 and the 4.0. Hard to believe that this would be true. I realize that you are working with what you are given, but it still smells a bit like marketting.

    Also the shape of the dyno curve is important as that tells us where the power is being made, so the actual graphs are important.
     
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  4. Oct 2, 2013 at 6:06 AM
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    Been looking for this a while now;I emailed them with a couple of things I wanted to ask,that's been 4 days ago,no response.Guess there busy.
     
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  5. Oct 2, 2013 at 6:57 AM
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    While my parents had a dodge 2500 with a few great bullydog products on it, that was a beast.. i have to say...

    If it walks like a DUCK, and quaks like a DUCK, then it must be a f#ggin sheep...
     
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  6. Oct 2, 2013 at 7:08 AM
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    Call tech support and maybe they can get you info or contact info. They are very helpful everytime I call
     
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  7. Oct 2, 2013 at 7:23 AM
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    Haha this thread makes me :rofl: and proves the point that everyone gets real tough behind a keyboard. Bullydog doesn't owe us anything. This is a development thread for a reason. All the answers aren't included here and I don't believe that Wesley has all of the answers either. If someone has questions that they really want answered why not call up BD directly? All of these posts in here are speculation and all they do is just stir up more speculation by other people who don't know what they're talking about... BD is obviously working on it and I am fairly confident that dyno pulls will come out whether they are by BD or not.
     
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  8. Oct 2, 2013 at 7:41 AM
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    This is not a development thread created by BD. BD has this item for sale and has been selling it for weeks now. The questions have been really simple, shows us the gains and where in the curve they come from. And yes BD owes us a answer if they want us to spend all this money on their product. Do I want this if it produces 20 to 24 extra torque where I want it to? Yes, but if a dyno doesn't show it I can just turn my attention elsewhere. As Lurkin said above, these numbers they are showing is for both the N/A 5.7 and the N/A 4.0...
     
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  9. Oct 2, 2013 at 7:42 AM
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    Well said, my thoughts exactly.
     
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    THAT IS MY POINT

    How can you reasonably expect to have all the answers you seek provided by all these people who also know nothing? And Wesley may (or may not) be a real contact at BD... For all I know he's the janitor
     
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  11. Oct 2, 2013 at 7:55 AM
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    Well the janitor joined the conversation. Maybe between sweeping the engineering floors he can ask them our questions.

    Either way personally I'm waiting on the super inflated price to come down to all the other OEM controller costs before I buy.
     
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    So, in a nutshell you're telling us that our questions shouldn't be asked here but rather directed towards their sales number?


    Seems rather asinine since a guy from BD made an account and showed up giving answers. Seems to me that the only person who would make an account on a Taco forum under the name Bully Dog would be THE guy with the answers....just following logic here.

    To me it doesn't seem that Bully Dog has all of the answers, much less Wesley. And yes, they DO owe us answers...after all they are selling a product. Do you really expect someone to buy a 400 dollar knife from me if I won't answer their questions about steel, heat treat, handle material, etc.


    Also, can you point me to where anyone in this thread has been "real tough behind a keyboard?" Asking simple questions about a product isn't being real tough in my world, but I do live in the south.
     
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  13. Oct 2, 2013 at 8:18 AM
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    Wait, which is your point?


    Above you say that this is a development thread so all of the answers aren't here, then you agree that this ISN'T a development thread so all of the answers aren't here. Which is it? And in which thread do we get answers?
     
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    If it means anything to you guys, I work in Marketing.


    Yes, we owe you answers. But keep in mind, the MAIN reason I joined this thread was because some individuals complained about Tundra Talk getting love online and Tacoma World not. Someone actually called in and requested a Bully Dog representative to join...
    So, now I answer questions on both this thread and on Tundra Talk because Lyle fell behind when he went on a business trip. But please keep in mind, I don't get paid to do this. This isn't my "job". I'm hourly, and am hardly EVER on this thread when I'm at work... So excuse me for being blunt, but no, I don't owe you answers on this specific thread. We owe you answers if you ask them the way everyone else does. By calling in to our sales or tech team(thank you to those that mentioned you have done this). That being said, I am doing my best to answer all of the questions that come forward. Please point out any question that I HAVEN'T answered or addressed. ;)
    As you can see on that chart, at the top, it says that the hp is measured peak to peak. That alone shows you where the power is coming from. So, although we have experienced higher hp gains(from bubbles) we are not reporting these gains, only peak to peak. If you guys would like, I will request that a n/a graph be made next time we have one in. Anybody interested in that?

    But yes, the numbers are for the 4.0 n/a and the 5.7 n/a.
     
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    Yes, graph please, YES, PUUULLLLEEEESE.... :D:D
     
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    haha I'll make sure to bring it up. :D
     
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    Thought I would pass on the word.

    We have just released an update for the Tundra guys, and we have a Tacoma coming in. Almost all of the updates related to the Tundra since release should be able to translate over to updates for the Tacoma. So expect something big soon guys. :)
     
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    Good work BD! The price is high, but it's expected with thr R&D and time spent on this, as well as the functions it comes with! We have had a bunch of very happy Tundra and Tacoma owners. The Super charged guys are very excited for the Tundra. Glad someone finally cracked Toyota!
     
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  19. Oct 3, 2013 at 4:08 PM
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    Sweet any spoils as to what is getting updated
     
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    Wonder how long until the price of these fall down to the price of every other controller for our OEM's?
     
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