Sway-A_Way (SAW) Coilovers

According to the manufacturers you need uniball UCA's to benefit from the extra droop you will get but i i believe you could run Ext. Length with stock UCAs you just wont beable to use that extra Droop the Ext Length CO's give you when paired with uniball UCA's so if you plan on getting the UCA's later i think it would make more sense to ge tthe Ext. Length CO's even if your run em with stock UCA's for a little bit. But honestly if i were in a 2nd gen id just get the All-Pro LT kit

 

That's what I figured. Makes sense. Yeah...I'm on the fence about LT...but it's kinda leaning that way. All depends on if I can come up with the funds before I get too impatient.

 

Well with the All-Pro kit you dont need fiberglass fenders which is nice i wish they made a kit like that for first gens id be allover it but im not really sure what you have to do to the CVs that is if your 4x4, havent read into the kit too much seeing as i cant use it on my truck.

 

from Wheelers "So the only difference between your shock and the extended ones is a one inch spacer inside the shock that limits your up travel. You can tear apart your coilovers, get inside and take that out and in the meantime put new seals in your coilovers. But that is up to you. That is basically the only difference".

So you are right Blackdawg! Guess i need to rebuild my CO's and take that fuckin spacer out!

 

You might want to think on that a bit. How would a spacer limiting up travel have anything to do with "more droop" as they state? The bumpstops limit up travel not the shock. The "spacer" in guestion is just a damper to cushion the impact of the piston to the shaft end of the body at rapid full extension and by default limiting down travel. Thinner or no damper equates to more extension.
Spend 15 minutes and do the CV bind check mentioned in post #4 and ask yourself if that is truly what you want going on at full droop.

 

The SAW 2.0 seem like a good deal when compared to other co. The only things i have seen close to their price are bilstein CO and fox 2.0 from all pro. But the fox only go up to two inches and i assume the saw shock is superior to a bilstein 5100. It also makes sense to get the extended saws with after market control arms not just for more travel but for better alignment, correct?

 

Damn straight

tear em down man!

i think Wheelers worded that wrong. The spacer would impact the shaft travel as i think its attached to the shaft..but im not 100% certain on that. thus down and up travel are effective.

Either way, an extended Co gains about 1-1.5'' more droop wheel travel and about 1'' up travel.

 

I have checked my droop on my truck and it can use more, no to little binding at full droop from what ive seen so far

 

Where did you come up with the 1" additional up travel number?
The "spacer" is technically known as an internal bumpstop. It is more or less a doughnut around the shock shaft between the piston and the shaft end of the shock body. Billies have it too. It is necessary to cushion the impact of the piston against the end cap of the shock at full extension and full extension only on systems where the shock is used to limit down travel. Removing it altogether would be a mistake.

If you have "little binding" now you will have more with a longer shock. Am I missing something?

 

As for this im pretty sure that sway-a-way, or any company icon/kings/etc., would not sell extended coilovers which were just the same coilover without an internal bump stop im going to look through rebuilds and see if i can find this spacer they are talking about!

I believe the little binding i have is due to the factory boot becasue it s only on the side that doesnt have a ripped boot so with high angle boots i think it would be alleviated! Im going to put some new coils on mine in the next few weeks so ill see if i can find out how much more droop i can have before the tripod knuckles bind!

 

Totally agree, it was Wheelers that said to toss it.

Good plan, find out first hand, for yourself, on your truck.
Lots of things can affect the exact point where binding will occur such as alignment, deformation of the rubber in upper/lower control arm bushings, bent/tweaked frame, spindle, arms and CV manufacturer. Years ago hytenor had a tripod come all the way out of the bell. At the time he was running the old adjustable Downey/Bilstein that was only 3/8" longer than stock. I have never heard of that happening before or since with any shock.

 

so if thats not how extended coilovers gain the extra travel, how are extended travel coilovers built that allows for the extra inches?

 

so Here we go guys a definitive answer from SAW "
All you would need to convert our standard 96-04 Tacoma to one with UCA, is to switch out the internal spacer. Yours has a 1.45" spacer and the UCA kit has a .685" spacer."

The part number for said spacer is "56060-685 PISTON ROD SPACER, .685", 2",2 1/2", $4.00 each"

So that is how you turn your Standard CO's to Extended Length CO's. So this spacer gives you .765"s at the shock but at the end of the LCA im sure it correlates to over an inch.

 

All ICON, SAW, Radflo coilovers use the same coilover for the standard and extended travel versions. The difference is the bumpstop spacer.

Also, you can't run the extended travel version without aftermarket UCA's because you will bind the upper ball joint. Thats going to cause it to wear out or snap really quick.

 

Well what do you know about that.

 

I think someone goofed. Should be refering to limiting downtravel.

 

Thread revival haha, anyone know where to find the smaller shaft spacer these days, SAW has changed hands a few times and appears to be in the capable hands of aFe now but they don't have this part in the replacement parts catalog.

 

@TMFF

 

I don’t stock anything for SAW’s besides seals and bearings.

Poly performance or kartek may have some stock.