Auto vs Manual which one is stronger?

I've driven mostly manuals my whole life. I had a 06' Tundra that was an auto. Selecting a specific gear didn't mean it was always in that gear, it would go lower but not higher. I heard the 2nd gen Tacoma auto is a gated transmission. Does that mean selecting say 3rd gear would only produce 3rd gear? No 1, 2, 3 off the line? That would be helpful off road. I would have liked that in the Tundra. But I still like and prefer a manual.

 

i didn't mean using the clutch start cancel feature to start a vehicle that won't start; i meant using it to advance the vehicle foward (or backwards), in the event it won't start; but, you need to get yourself off the road, etc.
i've heard of many'a-people that have used the clutch start cancel feature to creep a dead vehicle on to the shoulder; i even had a friend that limped his dead truck all the way up his driveway-hill in a mess of snow - i'm sure his starter wasn't too happy about it

sorry. does that make more sense or am i actually missing something?
why you gotta question a fellow Idahoan ?!

 

Turning over = engine is spinning, regardless of if it's running. If an engine won't turn over that means it is seized internally (bad).

That's why I'm assuming he was confused.

 

This is true: I shouldn't have interchanged "Turn Over" with the engine starting, my bad
Yes, if your powertrain/flywheel literally won't turn, period, you're foiled

 

Manual all the way.

 

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

 

Manual

 

That's one of the first things I did was to get rid of that damned clutch start cancel switch.

It's really easy. Find the plug. Pull it out. Bridge the two contacts with a small loop of copper wire. Put the plug back into the socket. It won't go in all the way, but the socket will still hold it in place.

It's so nice to just bump the shift knob and turn the key.

 

Since I live in the city and frequent the downtown area, there are a lot of red lights and I mean a lot...like every block intersection. Also the morning rush traffic and the evening going home traffic doesn't help. If my Tacoma was an manual, I would go crazy. It is automatic all the way for me due to the area where I live.

There is benefits to having a manual, in which you are in better control and feel of your vehicle. However, in the city, I would rather not get a left leg exercise session every time I drive.

 

I tow a lot. Like a LOT. Sometimes every day. In the winter it can be very long distances with a good amount of weight. I'd much rather tow heavy with an auto than a manual.

 

I love my 5 speed. Whenever I don't feel like shifting I have a Chevy Citation and a Ford Bronco that are automatic so I drive one of them. Anymore the car gets driven the most since it gets the best mileage of the 3 and money is tight for me currently.

 

I've had both. 2005 v6 4x4 with auto, now i have a 2010 v6 6spd manual. I like the manual better. My 05 had almost 130k when i sold it and the trans. had its moments.

 

I have had all manual vehicles all my life except 3, first was my 94 4runner, i hated it because i hated autos. period. Not to mention it sucked.

Second was a F350 7.3.. hated the auto, for the same reason everyone hated that auto. it sucked.

fast forward to 2012, i have been driving manuals all my life and i finally decided i wanted the auto. For a few reasons.
-less work (i expected that i would enjoy not shifting days when i didnt even want to drive etc)
-autos are shit anymore, shift better and more reliable
-biggest reason was more MPG

I drove my 2012 tacoma v6 auto for 5 months, and i liked it at first...

I really started to miss the manual.. all the time, The new auto was a great tranny, and it shifts soo much better than old ones. It also was amazing for MPG.

The bottom like is no matter how good the auto is, or how much better they are, or how much MOST people preffer them etc.

-I myself, good or bad, was not in control of when it shifts and how.
-i grew up wheeling a manual, as easy as the AUTO is its not as enjoyable. Hello golfcart.
-and they still have a way to go, the thing still has quirky moments

I agree with many people, the auto is a great auto, and maybe someday i will be old enough to want one. but so far, i dont. I thought so, figured 12 years of manual was enough. (legaly, driving on the street) longer than that wheeling etc.

I dont care what they do, the Auto is not going to have the connected feeling a manual does and ill take my 6spd any day. I dont care if the gears are made of wood, and toyota warrantys it every month for the rest of my trucks life. (for the record its been great so far 8500 miles)

 

Auto, i am lazy at times, and i dont want to be all shaked up in traffic with stop and go.
Besides i dont want to replace the clutch or any moving parts comes with a manual.

I am someone that dont like to take out something and replace, i feel like it will never be the same afterward.

SO eff changing out the clutch and other crap along with it

 

But the "never the same as before" means its even better than before

I like both Autos and Manuals, for wheeling sometimes i wish i had an auto but i also like actually being in control of the vehicle.. And honestly i think you are not a real driver until you've mastered the art of the manual

 

Yeah, it is nice... ... UNLESS you forget to bump the shifter first!!
HAHAHA!!
There was one day I opened my door, stayed outside of the truck, hit the cancel, (forgot to put it in neutral), and started turning the key...
The truck nearly jumped the concrete tire chock block and almost went careening into my downstairs neighbor's living room

Good thing that block was there, or else it probably would have; and good thing it didn't start after the first couple cranks, cause I don't think I would have been able to jump in it fast enough to stop it

And yes, I realize how stupid and air-headed of a mistake that was; in the event that someone finds it's necessary to inform me
haha

 

part of the reason i got my 2012..

but now with the 6spd in my 2013, the gearing in it is great for towing. and no more auto hunting on the highway

 

Exactly. Ain't nobody grinding my gears.

 

With a manual especially, it depends on the skill and habits of the driver. Our 91 Civic that was rear-ended/totalled earlier this year had nearly 400k, with me and my dad driving it. My sister's 07 Cobalt, on the other hand, has had three clutches, (the latest one being a stage 1 racing clutch) and I'm sure it's about to dump the tranny completely, the way it's acting. It doesn't even have 100k on it yet. She drives like an idiot maniac, ripping gears, jackrabbiting off the line, not taking care of the car and performing maintenance, etc. A manual will last a lot longer- if you can drive it right.

 

Either transmission is at the mercy of the driver. An auto can fail without warning where a manual generally won't. Manuals work at any angle. Autos don't have a clutch that can get wet or muddy and slip when off-roading. Autos generally have higher tow ratings. Manuals are generally more fuel efficient. A clutch can be killed in 20 seconds or last 20 years, seen both. I prefer a manual, but also enjoy the ease of an auto. It's easier to spin tires with a manual, that's a + or - depending on the situation. Anyone can drive an auto, again +&-. An auto is easier to drive in almost all conditions. Fluid change is easier and cheaper on a manual, but it'll require a clutch replacement at some point. The answer on which is best; buy the one you prefer to drive and spend money on it when it asks for it.