The Frankenstein Build! LT/Expo/Trail rig..and BS

so TSB is 4 leafs with overload and only 3 with overload...

 

TSB is 3 leafs and an overload leaf. Non-TSB is 2 leafs and an overload leaf. So 4 leafs and 3 leafs total.

 

Hey Dane, if I had to chime in here i'd say go with Dakars... i've run into a possible bad set of expeditions idk. I've got about 450 pounds in the bed area at all times and they hold up fine but I think the dakar would be better suited with it's overloads for the weight i've got... both miles better than stock for weight tho even when stock has TSB leaf

 

i wasnt impressed with how Joey's Dakars took his weight..they were all warped..he is a 1st gen but yea..

 

hmm, good solution might just be run to the junkyard and build off your main leaf like member 4WD does?

 

yea possibly..i love my alcans though..though..also..an AAL..and skyjacker leaf...

but thats a good option if you have to tools to do it..

 

I'm not 100% on this but I think Expos hold more weight than Dakars.

It basically goes, Allpro standards for no weight like ever and Allpro Expos for shit tons of weight all the time. Then the Dakars are the middle ground there.

 

I don't remember who it was, but somebody has had both Dakars and Expos at some point. He said that Expos do well on the highway loaded and unloaded better than Dakars overall. And Dakars loaded down from a trailer don't do well.

 

I've heard Expos are pretty rough riding without any weight, while the Dakars are pretty good without weight, but that is just what I have read on here and not from someone having had both setups so who knows. haha

 

Possibly different between 1st gens and 2nd gens?

 

ummm this is what my expos look like with 450 pounds of gear on board...

 

Oh, I thought you were talking 2nd gens. Kona seems to like his Expos with no weight so I would say yes, difference between gens.

From what I understand Dakars would be in even worse shape (unless something is wrong with your expos). You don't have a shackle flip right?

 

Nope no shackle flip. I think there is something wrong cuz the spring wont fully droop, like it should have 3 inches left in it. I'm waiting to hear back from Kurtis at allpro about it.

 

My expos don't ride rough & I don't have any extra weight in the rear
Then again, I've never riden on a pair of Dakars... just comparing em to my saggy OEM leafs

 

holy rust too.

 

We are talking 2nd gens not 1st gens. 1st gens seem to do fine on unloaded Expos.

Personally I imagine Expos unloaded on 2nd gens really aren't that bad either. Some people are just pickier than others. haha

 

I thought we were talking about 1st gens since it's on a 1st gen thread

 

haha thats red dirt from by shoshone lake road entrance! no rust brah!

and the expos unloaded are firm but ride fine on the second gens.

Sorry for clogging up ur thread Monte

 

yea i have heard mixed things. Silas said his where stiff as shit with no weight in the back..and with 700lbs of rocks they barely squated..

Jerry also said his were stiff unloaded..

but those were some of the first ones made..wonder if they have changed the spring rates..

 

this thread..is....idk..haha

ahhh gotcha..good haha that powerdery shit? that stuff is nuts.