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New Tires + Wheels + 2.5" lift causing alignment problem

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by octoyotaco, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. Dec 2, 2013 at 11:31 AM
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    Nope. When I had my stocks it didn't drift or have a tire that was slanted. Idk what to do, a lot of people told me I won't have to buy anything, that I just need to go to a shop to get it redo till it's right
     
  2. Dec 2, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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    That's because your numbers weren't really bad before the alignment. Usually when you put a lift, you lose caster.
     
  3. Dec 2, 2013 at 12:54 PM
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    What should I do? I wanted to take it to a local 4 wheel parts shop but they charge$150. I have the unlimited alignments through big o tires. I'm going tomor morning again. What should I tell them to do?
     
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    you want caster to be as high as possible near 2.0+

    you might want to swap the tires from left to right and see if the truck pulls the other way
     
  5. Dec 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM
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    This image explains caster (duh, it's a caster wheel) :

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    Simple enough. When you don't have "enough" tire and wheel behind the steering axis, you don't have the nice self-centering effect of positive caster.

    I used these just because I'm not the desert racer type (didn't need uniballs) and they were inexpensive ($379 at wheelers).
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    If you are trying to get by with minimum ducat outlay, you remove your stock BJ from the factory UCA and reuse it. I did and it's a PITA, because it's all about not destroying the boot. Price goes up to $529 with the ball joints already installed. The caps to cover the cavity were 39 bucks extra.

    The Light Racing UCAs are highly regarded on TW....nice to have options ya know?
     
  6. Dec 2, 2013 at 1:22 PM
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    Okay got it.... So if I switch the tires around and it pulls to the left... What would that mean?
     
  7. Dec 2, 2013 at 3:50 PM
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    Check the air pressures. One may be low.
     
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    DO NOT take your truck to 4 wheel parts, they could fuck up a wet dream
     
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    Yep, no to 4WheelParts. I've heard of better places like Accurate Alignment in Anaheim, Bednar brakes and alignment in La Habra though they are not cheap. $125. I suggest you take it to another Big O Tires and ask them to at least set your caster to +2 or higher while keeping camber at or near zero. I'd say no more than .4. Toe is easy. Camber and Caster works with each other. I said I liked the before numbers because your caster was over +2 on one side and almost 2 on the other while camber was still at or around .5
    Higher the caster the better it will drive. (over 2+ but closer to 3 is optimum)

    As far as the pulling, check tire pressure or rotate your tires. Could be as simple as when they set your toe adjustment, the steering wheel was not straight so when you straighten it out it goes to the right.
     
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    The pressure is fine
     
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    LOL okay, I'll forget about 4 wheel parts. I did run into an issue with them. They order the wrong rims for me a few weeks back. I had to order them through another shop and wait forever..... Anyways, I'll go back to big o tires tomor and explain to them what you just told me
     
  12. Dec 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM
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    Here's a pic of my truck from this past weekend in Glamis. Just thought I'd share

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    Like I said, try another Big O Tires. I went to them for an alignment before and it was ok. Some techs are better than others. They just didn't want to put the time to get it to where I wanted it. They probably limit their time to 1 hour or less for alignment. Usually on a regular non lifted alignment, they only set the toe as the caster and camber hardly moves unless your driving your car hard.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2013 at 4:58 PM
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    LOL dude I went to the second big o tire this morning at 7am and they were dead. I showed them that the tire was still slanted. I will try my buddy's tire shop tomor. He said he will fix it but we'll see. I'll give an update if and how he fixed it tomor
     
  15. Dec 2, 2013 at 5:12 PM
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    You mean your tires were like "\ /"? Shouldn't be since your camber looks good from the print out.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2013 at 3:34 PM
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    My truck is being worked on today. I'll update you guys if the problem is resolved and if it is, I will let you guys know what they did to fix it for future reference
     
  17. Dec 3, 2013 at 3:52 PM
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    only the front right is like that.. the front left is fine or at least looks fine.. the front right looks like this " \ "
     
  18. Dec 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM
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    That's not what your alignment sheet says. You better take it back and have them do another sheet.
     
  19. Dec 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM
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    Exactly. That's a camber issue and according to your printout, your camber is fine.
     
  20. Dec 4, 2013 at 9:26 AM
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    I'm starting to give up. My friend made some type of adjustment to the left side and now it's pulling to the left. Is there anyone in Orange County that can help me out with this? I will give it one last shot tonight after work, otherwise I might have to buy the UCA's :( I didn't want to spend more $
     

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