VSC, Trailer Sway Control

Makes sense , and that's why it always lurks and is not totally off

 

This thread is great comedy. Makes me miss TW.

I still lurk here often, just don't show up out of the blue all the time when normal things are happening. It takes epic fuckoffery to bring me out of the shadows.





Much like VSC when it's "off."

 

Good shot, nicely done.

 

Details? If I didn't hold the button down do you think I'd be able to do 4x4 donuts in the first place?

The point is...VSC...is still there. Gotta do a bypass switch to make it go away for good.

 

As do I in all kinds of weather conditions including driving around a corner and hitting a pothole in the road...It's not off...trust us...

 

You must do some crazy stuff to get the VSC to kick in if you hold the button down. I've tried to get VSC to kick in after holding the button down, and it just won't do it.

 

So your experience differs from other people , that doesn't make them all wrong and you right

 

True. I just like to state my stance and let the chips fall where they may . . ..

 

I have a suggestion.

Disable your VSC. Go drive normally for 5-10 min, then w/o turning your truck off or resetting anything (VSC still off), pull in to your secluded parking lot and try a few donuts.

David

 

What would that prove, David? My truck does donuts with VSC off. I can't get the VSC to kick in when I hold the button down for five seconds. That's all there is to it.


If your truck behaves differently, maybe it is not at factory specs. You maybe have too much lift which makes the VSC behave abnormally, this has been discussed.

 

Look - I was posting under the pretense that you were trying to understand the vsc systems and possible discrepencies between what Toyota states and what has been observed. I don't have problems w/ my VSC. I have a moderate lift, 32" tires and NEVER have the VSC kick in even in agressive highway driving.

I have turned the VSC off (yes - i know how) and driven off road for many miles (SOP for higher speed muddy conditions in 4hi) and then subsequently found the VSC kicks back in when pushed hard. I have never disabled the VSC and immediately tried to cut donuts. I have never experienced VSC re-engage in 4lo. I don't make a habit of cutting donuts/powerslides etc. - this is ecperience from use as required, not buzzing around in parking lots. Seems to have something to do with disabling via the button.

Try it / don't try it I don't care....

David

 

I'm having a hard time understanding how you "NEVER have the VSC kick in even in agressive highway driving", but somehow "then subsequently found the VSC kicks back in when pushed hard"

The two statements don't make sense together.

 

Maybe its the off road part that you don 't understand?

I don't do donuts or slide around on the street. I have driven aggressively through twisty roads ON road and never had the VSC kick in.

Drive to the lease, put it in 4hi and turn the TRAC/VSC off so I can spin my tires when i hit the muddy parts. My lease is 4 miles to the back as the crow flies, starts getting hilly. Clay starts clogging up the tires, starts sliding down hills/ sideways coming out of ruts in the trail, I have SOMETIMES felt the VSC re-engage even though everything is "off". This is on a 2012 dcsb OR.

It NEVER has happened in 4Lo. Don't really need 4lo for what I'm doing there, but that's mostly what I do now.

David

 

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These lyrics are more entertaining than you two arguing.

 

There is an off topic forum complete w/ funny pictures/gifs/vids for those that aren't capable of following the discussion.

David

 

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So easy . . . . . . .

 

The real question here is did you have to look that up or did it come straight from the dome.

To the topic, I will turn mine off tomorrow and post the outcome.

 

Turning mine off in thickly snowed/iced parking lots results in it staying off. I can slide the tail and spin the truck.

Haven't tried turning it off and driving at speed down the snowed/iced road. I've driven on that stuff in an old Subaru with no e-aids, but my truck is both much nicer and much less stable+zippy. VSC seems to be a good thing in these conditions, so I'm not gonna tempt fate and turn it off.

(Haven't spent much time offroad in 4Hi, for what I do 4Hi = fire roads & snow and 4Lo = offroad)

Is it possible that the VSC will forcefully re-engage at-speed? Has that already been discussed? Supposedly one of the biggest purposes for VSC is preventing spins & rolls on the highway, and of course the most likely time anybody would want it *off* is when they are stuck and not moving. (Of course there are exceptions, but for the average Tacoma buyer)

 

I didn't expect to fill much difference but it was. The roads were wet this morning and rear would come out with a light amount of trottle with it off. I did slide a few times, nothing to crazy because I was around traffic, and didn't want to push it too hard. It never came back on.