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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by AWF ROWD, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. Dec 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM
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    Yup.

    It's all about power to the ground.
    If the engine puts out 400hp and the rear suspension can put that to the ground without smoking the tires, then ya... 2wd launch is sufficient.

    If the suspension can only put 300hp to the ground without smoking the tires, then a 4wd launch will get it all to the ground and the extra power will make up for the parasitic losses in the driveline.

    Dragsters and other dedicated racing vehicles are purpose-built to get everything to the ground as efficiently as possible, while keeping the vehicle as light as possible... but dragsters and F1 cars are not daily drivers that came off of a production line.
    In a race car, the race can be won or lost by the weight of the driver's breakfast.
     
  2. Dec 11, 2013 at 8:35 PM
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    That's true. I've been around dirt circle tracks for years and that's the first thing you learn. You can make all the power you want but if the chassis doesn't get it to the ground you'll get beat by less.
     
  3. Dec 12, 2013 at 4:26 AM
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    Well If you can't even put down 100%power to rear tires then of course there is a chance you'll lose the race. supposedly the vehicles racing being equal horse power and capable of putting 100% power to rear and 50 50 to front and rear then the advantage goes to rwd.
     
  4. Dec 12, 2013 at 4:29 AM
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    I think superwerty launches in 4H then after shifting to 2nd drops it to 2H and his truck is pretty impressive.
     
  5. Dec 12, 2013 at 5:24 AM
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    Awd is def more forgiving on driver & mech errors on dry pavement
     
  6. Dec 12, 2013 at 7:30 AM
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    Done.....if I can find a surface that's not covered in ice..Probably gonna have to be a summer project since I just got the 285 DuraTracs mounted for winter......0-60 times in the icy crap is gonna be in the 2 beer range...
     
  7. Dec 12, 2013 at 7:40 AM
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    Cept, AWD, vehicles in the racing circuit are not running a 50/50 split unless Rally. Most pavement cars are running a 30/70-20/80 split. Enough to allow the power to get to the ground, but not to much to push understeer. Just see GTR vs Vette in the nurburg trials.

    Either way it is 4H as in 4 HIGH, not H4 :facepalm:. Secondly, why exactly do you have a boner to get a lower 0-60 time in a double cab 4wd taco? It's not a performance driven car, its a truck.
     
  8. Dec 12, 2013 at 8:09 AM
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    I challenge you to a duel. I would suspect I can get 0-60 in .687 Beers. But we are having a very mild introduction to winter therefor no ice yet. Give me a day or two and we'll see which way the weather turns. Then it's on. Beer at the ready.
     
  9. Dec 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM
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    Whats the max speed ?
     
  10. Dec 12, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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    stuff...
    Don't know where you are getting this supposed information from. A tacoma can put its power to the rear axle or both front and rear. With the same power, in the same truck, you will get more traction in 4 hi guaranteed. Period. The only argument you may have is if a 2wd vehicle was racing a 4wd/awd vehicle, and if traction was not an issue, power was equal, the 2wd has a chance because 4wd/awd systems make the vehicle heavier. But in the real world, they more than make up for it in additional traction for the holeshot.
     
  11. Dec 12, 2013 at 9:02 AM
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    I raced my rwd mustang but never against awd mustang heh to make all things equal I guess, anyway so being an F1 fan I know they try awd in the past and the result was not good so noone is going with awd now anymore in that race.

    My buddy has fwd eagle talon that he races vs awd talon, the awd talon may be slightly quicker off the start but he wins at the end of quarter mile stretch, most likely being the car is lighter.
     
  12. Dec 12, 2013 at 9:06 AM
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    The car is lighter and has all the power going to only two sets of wheels. More loss in the drive line in an AWD setup then that of a 2wd vehicle. It is simple physics/math. How do you not get this?:confused:

    EDIT: googled awd F1 cars, looks like the last front engine car to win an F1 race was in the early 60's and guess what, it was 4wd.
     
  13. Dec 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM
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    yes.. you can launch in 4HI. Super Werty (who I was hangin out with last weekend) said that is what he does on the 1/4 mile, then switches out of 4HI in 2nd gear, around 75.

    btw OP, I have the same setup as you, and if you want to shave off even more time, and have your acceleration be even quicker, invest in the IPT Valve Body upgrade.

    it shaved nearly a full second off Werty's 1/4 mile time. Now, it is in my truck and let me tell you.. it makes a vast improvement. I have some before and after videos in my build.
     
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    stuff...
    We're getting a little far off topic from 0-60, but both have their pros and cons in different types of motorsports. I had a eclipse gsx, same as the awd talon. Stock motor/ turbo, 1.6 60 ft times on crappy street tires. It would make a lot of people play catch up going down the 1/4.
     
  15. Dec 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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    Every 4x4 diesel pickup in the country does this end of thread.
     
  16. Dec 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM
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    F1 cars are mid engine and don't need the extra weigh or wheels for traction. They also have tons more HP than a Tacoma so it pretty well shows that 4WD is not needed in an F1 car. Try it you will not blow up your transfer case as long as your driving an automatic last time I looked 1/4 mile drags were pretty much straight line. In the many years I did communications for the Climb to the Clouds just about every thing was 4WD in the top 10 times. http://www.climbtotheclouds.com/history/
     
  17. Dec 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM
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    F1 cars are not really mid engine , more like rear engine
     
  18. Dec 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM
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    And this race you reference is not on strictly tarmac, nor was there setup a 50/50 bias such as the Tacoma transfer.
    This^ and in the begining they were not rear or mid.....
     
  19. Dec 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM
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    Beer Bong's are cheatin'..........
     
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