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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by Cohbsteq, Nov 6, 2013.

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  1. Dec 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM
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    If you are worried that it wont get hot enough, through flux in it and strap on a tank of pure C02 to getter nice en hot.
     
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  2. Dec 18, 2013 at 8:47 AM
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    Run CO2 with Flux?:confused:
     
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  3. Dec 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM
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    FCAW-G gas shielded flux, the C02 will give better penetration than a regular C25 mix on non flux single shield wire.
     
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  4. Dec 18, 2013 at 9:01 AM
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    With proper joint prep. and preheat with propane, you can weld a wider range of thickness' of steel with a 140 or 180 welding machine. Adding a bevel or chamfered edge with a grinder is the quickest and easiest way to obtain this result.
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  5. Dec 18, 2013 at 9:16 AM
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    What are the advantages of using propane over a rosebud and oxyacetylene for pre-heating?
     
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  6. Dec 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM
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    One or two things modded... Check out the build thread
    I would guess more folks might have a propane torch laying around???? :notsure: we just always use the oxy/acet torch because it is on the same truck the welder is on when we have to heat up hard plate to weld... would think they both serve the same purpose though.
     
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  7. Dec 18, 2013 at 9:29 AM
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    I just use propane as an example since it is simple and convenient to access. Propane is typically cheaper and has a higher BTU rating at a lower temperature for heating up material.
     
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  8. Dec 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM
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    Ahhhhh, gotcha.
     
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  9. Dec 28, 2013 at 6:43 PM
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    write a check or get a credit account for a miller 252. You be sooo happy
     
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  10. Dec 29, 2013 at 6:40 AM
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    Take a class, get some burn time, save up and buy a decent welder. At least you'll know what you're looking at when you're putting your money down. Personally I would buy new.
     
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  11. Dec 29, 2013 at 6:42 AM
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    Haha 2500!!! Holy cow! That's a tad out of my college student budget :D
     
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  12. Dec 29, 2013 at 7:34 AM
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    I'm just starting out myself. Could go with this set-up for a limited budget:

    · At least two (2) 12-volt car batteries (charged)
    · At least two (2) sets of jumper cables or one set of jumper cables and a “patch” cable
    · Vise-Grips
    · Wire Brush
    · File
    · Leather Gloves
    · Welding Goggles or hood with at least a shade 10 lens
    · 3/32” Welding rod

    6011 welding rod
    347 stainless welding rod
    1/8 rod
    3/32 rod
     
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  13. Dec 29, 2013 at 7:50 AM
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    Haha I have considered something like this, but I'm leaning towards this guy, looks like a nice little set up with the option to run with or without gas. It's got some solid reviews, and runs off a standard plug..
    $790 Hobart 500559 Handler 140 MIG Welder 115V
    http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500559...&qid=1388332204&sr=8-1&keywords=Hobart+welder
     
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  14. Dec 29, 2013 at 10:04 AM
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    If you have any plans to ever weld sheet metal, you'll want infinite wire speed and voltage adjustments.
     
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  15. Dec 29, 2013 at 10:14 AM
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    Ya I'm thinking just a pretty basic one to Learn on then hopefully get the hang of it and upgrade in a year or two
     
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  16. Dec 29, 2013 at 10:21 AM
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    Save first then buy! Its like a paintball gun you buy a cheap walmart one. then you keep upgrading to the 1200 buck bob long. Get the hobart 140 for $500 or miller 211 for 900+
    use solid wire and run 75/25 gas.
     
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  17. Dec 29, 2013 at 11:00 AM
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    Do not go cheap on a welder. Do not get a. Cheap flux core. Get a good welder and it will last a lifetime. . You don't want to go cheap..
     
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  18. Dec 29, 2013 at 11:09 AM
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    How about a Lincoln Electric K1297? $299 at Lowes
    Lincoln Electric 240-Volt / 225-Amp Stick Welder

    I call this one "The little red box welder"

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    anyone got anything on this one?? looking into getting into welding, never done it but i want to learn. figure this one has a good price ad reviews
     
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    I went and looked at hat one today it looked good but it's a stick welder..Michael I guess isn't a bad thing.. I just think I want the option of gas
     
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