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The Two Most Interesting New Handguns at SHOT Show This Year

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by Ostrichsak, Jan 9, 2014.

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  1. Jan 9, 2014 at 5:34 AM
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    Ostrichsak

    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    And nope, it's not a single stack, pocket-size 9mm Glock to compete with the Shield, XDs, etc. like the buying public has been clamoring for for years. Believe it or not the two most innovative handguns are coming from Remington & Arsenal.

    First up is the Remington R51 which is going to be a 9mm version of an old (early 1900's) but innovative even by today's standards action in a compact and well thought out package. Retail price will be below $400 and they claim it will be in dealers February 1st. You can bet your ass I'll have one of these sooner than later.
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    Up next is the Arsenal Strike One. This is a standard size frame handgun with lots of innovative designs and a few new patents. One design feature is the height of the slide over the frame is SUPER short. This coupled with an aggressive grip & standard size frame will make for a rapid shooter's wet dream due to the recoil mitigation it presents. It's been in production in various calibers for years now but never imported to the US. Arsenal claims we will see it in 9mm in this country this year. Price on this one is still not settled (sounds like sub $800) but assuming it's not too high I will own one of these also.
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    Neither of them is what I would consider very attractive or even aesthetically appealing until you dig into their design features. The beauty, much like my beloved Glock, is in the function.

    Which brings me to my final point: As a self proclaimed Glock fanboi I'm saddened to report that with each passing year of Glock's inability to check the pulse of the consumer I'm an owner of more and more handguns by other manufacturers and becoming less and less of a Glock fanboi. Glock may have the lion's share of the market but their inability to adapt to the markets quickly (or at least at all) will be their eventual demise. Not a demise so much as eradicated from the face of the earth but they won't be the volume seller of handguns unless something changes at the corporate level. Market share is going to competition year after year of them not bothering to offer what it is the buying masses are flocking to in record numbers. It should be no surprise that the conceal carry crowd is growing at quickening rates and if Glock still thinks they're G17 (or even G19 these days) is the perfect carry weapon then they're more out of touch with reality than I thought. Their release of a single-stack .380 (Glock 42) to compete with the likes of the LCP and other 'pocket' 380's tells me they agree with this at least in part. Time to wake up Glock, your competitors are beating you at your own innovation game.
     
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  2. Jan 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM
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    Remington not Ruger
     
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    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    Yeah, I caught that typo after I posted it and it's been edited to avoid confusion. It's still a little bit early in the land of the Rockies. :D
     
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    Ostrich I agree with everything you posted. That Remington is the first Rem I have been interested in a long time.

    I hope Korth will be there with their new 1911 variant
     
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    Very interesting hand guns. I went to SHOT SHOW two years ago...My mind was blown! It's unreal how many people are there.
     
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    Two years ago? Did you see Steven Segal & Mac Brown wandering around? The big deal that year was the KSG and the LC9 as I recall. There were a few other things here and there but those were the big draws.
     
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    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    Why?
     
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    I really like that Rem handgun. At that price point, I might pick one up if it's made available in MA.
     
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    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    The funny part is that polymer will outlast metal if that's your concern.

    For me I plan to actually carry this weapon so I want lightweight & worry-free. I'm the opposite of you: if it's not polymer I'm not interested & I'd be shocked if it wasn't for the aforementioned reasons.
     
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    That Remington looks good. I'll have to compare between it and the Glock for CC
     
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    that strike one looks tits
     
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    That R1 is kinda cool, in a Buck Rogers kinda way. The Strike one looks like a fancy glock to me...
     
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    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    Not even in the same category of plastic.

    But as long as we're making random material observations I suppose you never seen any metal of any kind exposed to the elements (or not) rusted or corroded?
     
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    You're welcome to your beliefs. The problem is when you try to push them onto is by insinuating that the material is somehow inferior. Metal rusts & corrodes. Polymer does not. Call me in 100yrs & we'll see how many Glocks are still around.
     
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    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    Fact: Metal corrodes over time.

    Fact: Polymer does not.

    Fact: I'm not your bro, guy!

    Fact: Ninjas are mammals

    Not sure how that is even debatable yet you found a way to turn it into some sort of personal vendetta against me. Wonderful.

    So you decide to come into a thread about polymer handguns and then spew misinformation about metal frames vs polymer frames as fact and then when someone politely points out the misinformation to clear up the old school way of thinking about poly v metallic firearms for others who right be reading you automatically jump on the defensive and blame him for attacking you? That seems logical. Why don't you do everyone here a favor and simply add me to your ignore list if all I do is push beliefs and tell people they are wrong. Then you won't have to hear my BS posts any more since you clearly find nothing positive from my posts. Then the others who I'm trying to 'push beliefs onto' can simply be brainwashed in peace & quiet. I'm sorry your feelers were hurt but other than posting a picture of some cotton candy I'm really not sure how I could have cushioned that post any more as to not ruffle your feathers. I thought we were all adults here who could have adult conversation w/o getting our knickers all in a bunch. I was mistaken. I will try harder to soften all of my posts as to avoid offending your delicate sensibilities.

    My posts only push buttons & add nothing positive as you claim so don't read them.

    The rest of us who can have an adult conversation will try to get back on topic here now.
     
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    Ostrichsak [OP] Don't taze me bro!

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    Now that the children are gone...

    I think the frame is actually made of aircraft aluminum and the weight difference would be negligible in this case. It's made of parts created in South Carolina and at that price point it's quite impressive. It's probably the most exciting new handgun for me this year. I want to get one in my hands to run through the paces to see how it performs in real life.
     
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    I also prefer steel over polymer. Even for my EDC (scandium).

    To each his own...
     
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    I didn't see either of those guys but I got to meet Tom Knapp which was pretty cool.
     
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    With this comment, I feel compelled to comment. Beavis made no attack, or name called, yet you seemed agitated, and began with the name calling. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I don't think you came across well in this little battle. Lets try a bit harder to keep it civil.
     
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