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Rock slider soon. What are your recommendations?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by BamaToy1997, Jan 20, 2014.

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Which would you recommend?

Poll closed Feb 19, 2014.
  1. All Pro

    12 vote(s)
    10.6%
  2. BAMF

    46 vote(s)
    40.7%
  3. cbi

    7 vote(s)
    6.2%
  4. Elite

    4 vote(s)
    3.5%
  5. Relentless Fab

    6 vote(s)
    5.3%
  6. Other (PLEASE SPECIFY)

    38 vote(s)
    33.6%
  1. Jan 20, 2014 at 10:52 PM
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    Black Pipe

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    If a slider can't hold up to abuse from shipping it surely won't hold up on the trail. I have never seen a slider that mounts with 1/64" clearance between pinch weld. Returning sliders for 150 shipping fee, of course nobody would return them, better off selling them for scrap. It took NASA several months to figure out why the challenger failed, give it time.
     
  2. Jan 20, 2014 at 10:59 PM
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    JLee

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    Sounds like a troll to me ^ not feeding it.

    Sorry for clogging up your thread OP.
     
  3. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:17 PM
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    Shrockworks ! They made great products . What I like about them is that they don't stick out too much. Just enough to do the job. Check them out.
     
  4. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:19 PM
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    Understandable. You have to be honest with yourself before you are honest with your customers. What I've seen in person with more than one of your products is enough proof for me though.

    Back to the voting, sorry for momentary derailment OP!
     
  5. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM
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    BAMF is great also, amazing craftsmanship on all of his products. :cool:
     
  6. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM
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    When I get sliders I'm going with 4x innovations kick out, expanded metal option, and DOM.
    No disrespect to Jerry, Tyler or any of the other fab companies that do really quality work, but I could only get a base model slider for the same price as the optioned out 4x inno sliders.
     
  7. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM
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    Yeah, it helps that companies like 4xinnovations mass produces them when companies like BAMF, Relentless, and Elite make them individually. That's the only reason they are cheaper, which sucks because I'd love to give any of those guys my business instead.
     
  8. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM
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    All of our lead times are getting lower and lower. Personally, and even before I worked for relentless, I would never sacrifice quality for the sake of time.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2014 at 11:31 PM
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    I'd say quality is the same, just depends on what type of metal you order for your sliders. And I can still say I'd rather wait 2-3 weeks and save money then spend more with 5 month wait time, sorry if that came out rude... :eek:
     
  10. Jan 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM
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    Maybe if BAMF used a shipping company that didn't slap around shit like a $2 hooker or he added gussets to the shipping package like how he built that Swiss cheese setup for his rear axle on his truck they would be shipped without fear of damage, that would be "BAMF" :rolleyes:
     
  11. Jan 21, 2014 at 5:47 AM
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    Voted BAMF. A bunch of locals run them without problems. I just received mine a few weeks ago. No problems with damage shipping then across country. Only issue is the mounting hardware got lost on route, which is out of Jerrys control. I've talked to him and emailed him and he's always very responsive and great to deal with.

    Any slider can get damaged during shipping, it has nothing to do with build quality. It's not the vendors fault the freight company is not careful/ stacks other shit on top of them, etc...

    A few locals also run the 4x sliders and they work just fine as well getting beat on.

    I choose BAMF because I don't have a welder and could get bolt on for a first gen, as well as hearing great things about Jerrys customer service from locals.

    That being said since you have access to a welder I think its honestly just which one you like the look of best. I think any of the vendors here make a quality product and you can't really go wrong whomever you choose.
     
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  12. Jan 21, 2014 at 5:55 AM
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    Ya'll don't worry about clouding up my thread. I asked for honest and specific answers from personal experience. Since I sell a product as well I know that shit happens and sometimes people are not pleased with everything. I am not as worried about small dings and dents from shipping. Hell, it adds character before they even get installed. I am not worried too much about appearance. As mentioned, these WILL get abused. I am not light on the trail, and this truck is slowly being converted to handle expeditions. Eventually (I am thinking 5 years?) I will have her built for a 2 week road trip I want to take to Alaska. I need parts that FUNCTION, not always look pretty. That being said, I would prefer the comments to be centralized around some specific factors. Perhaps I should have been specific when I opened the thread, but sometimes answers beget questions. So let us include this:

    It must be capable of minimal, but acceptable deflection when wheel may slide off a rock, slamming the weight of the truck on the slider.

    It must be weld-on

    It must be round tubing

    More requirements may be added as I learn more. You all know by now I don't just go out and buy something. I want to learn about it first so that I know what I am investing in. So keep the info and suggestions coming. I have to admit from the actual count, it looks like the majority of people are voting for 4X4 innovations. I have never actually looked at their products. I guess I will, so that I can be fair in my judgment.

    J Lee, I admit that while I have shared a few discussions with you in other threads, I tend to see many of your posts as condescending. Now it may just be my perception since text does not always convey emotion, or humor at all. (I assume that is why we have smilies! :D) That being said, I do value your knowledge when it comes to metal fabrication. So if YOU were to personally make a recommendation of a slider by someone OTHER than who you work for/with, which would you recommend? Why? For those who ARE fabricators and are posting here, why do you recommend your product over others?

    While I am not saying price is not an object, I will say that certain things you SHOULD consider spending the extra money on to get a quality product. I mean I could buy the super-cheap bearings for my assemblies and save the guys a ton of money. But I would be selling an inferior product. So let's hear the pros and cons on the sliders themselves, and less about the individual sellers. Then I can ask about reputation. You can have the greatest reputation in the world, but if the sliders don't do what I want, it is a waste of time.

    Thanks again for all of the input from EVERYONE.
     
  13. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:02 AM
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    I'm in the market for sliders too, so kudo's for starting this thread.
    After reading through and seeing the pics, I really like the 4xinnovations sliders with the expanded metal filler.
     
  14. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:40 AM
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    Sorry for the shipping mishaps timmy it is really out of our hands. We ship the same way and with the same companies that meny other vendors do and sliders are heavy so they are treated like crap sometimes. All of our shipments are insured so UPS and Conway will cover damages if they happen. As for the gussets it's up to the installer to set the gap on weld on sliders if the gussets are too close to the pinch weld they were installed too high.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:53 AM
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    I voted other Because you want all round tube sliders and i don't build those. 4x would be a good option for you as they are closer and the cost is lower. I would get their hybrid sliders they just came out with as the hybrid design is stronger then full round tube sliders. I personally think my 1st gen DOM sliders with a kick are the strongest on the market. From these factors the design of the outer rail allows more connections with the main square tube. The main tube is 2x2 square witch is stronger then the 1.75 round. Square does dent easier then round that is why we turn the tube on its side so the corner of the tube is what contacts the objects.
     
  16. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:59 AM
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    Good information there. Let me ask you this, just so I can learn more. I have seen square based sliders on trucks before, and the biggest complaint was that the square part has corners obviously:rolleyes:, and that these corners would hang up on rocks making it difficult to truly "slide" along rocks in some situations such as sideways because the corners would "hang". For this reason I have ruled out any square designs. I will admit that I am open to discussion here. What can you tell me about the differences, other than strength. I want strength, and this alone may make me reconsider the base design. Convince me.
     
  17. Jan 21, 2014 at 7:05 AM
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    I have no idea what your talking about. LOVE MY BAMF sliders!uploadfromtaptalk1390316701252.jpg
     
  18. Jan 21, 2014 at 7:09 AM
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  19. Jan 21, 2014 at 7:12 AM
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    I see what your saying about the corners I have never had an issue with sliding on my sliders. Where are you thinking you would hang up on? I personally think the hybrid design looks better than full round but that's personal preference. Other then looks and being stronger there is not much more to sell you on the hybrid slider.
     
  20. Jan 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM
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    I have seen Square sliders fall into a ridge on a rock and prevent a slider from letting a truck go sideways. But im not convinced that tube would have been any different. What I see is the big problem is how far forward and back the slider goes. On my friends ranger he didn't build his sliders forward enough and he got a rock caught between the slider and the tire. Had it been a 2-3 inches closer to the tire it would have been on top of it.
    They will all be strong and they will all deflect to some amount if your going to be dropping the truck onto them. It depends where you weld them on but leave a decent gap from the pinchweld. (or add a .5" body lift)


    I think every one of the options is good and what the choice comes down to is Cost and customization options. I wish that when I ordered mine I hadn't just gotten the regular design. If you looking for an Expo truck. I would seriously think about how you are going to reach into your bed. I wish I had gotten a kickout/step on the rear just before the tire. While I can stand on the little lip I do have it doesn't stick out enough and I wish there was a flat plate on the back 8" or so.
     

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