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Event data recorder AKA "black box" is a Airbag control module?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by egres, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. Jul 23, 2013 at 6:52 PM
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    egres

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  2. Jul 24, 2013 at 6:10 AM
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    Bumping up, anybody knows is there separate box to monitor us or is it in airbag box?
     
  3. Feb 9, 2014 at 7:03 AM
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    bump
     
  4. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:08 AM
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    chris4x4

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    They are separate, but the airbag module ties into it.
     
  5. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM
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    thank you, by any chance, do you know where it's located or any pics of EDR.
     
  6. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:29 AM
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  7. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:32 AM
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    Nope. Never had a chance to look for it.
     
  8. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:48 AM
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  9. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:48 AM
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    depends on what info you want to access, from what I have been told by the engineers that come to the shop, its all in the ABS ecu, some freeze frame data you can pull with a scanner, some only they can upload.
     
  10. Feb 9, 2014 at 8:57 AM
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    I believe that now they are built into the PCM. There is no way to disconnect, disable or modify them or your vehicle will not run. Don't worry about it. If I am correct if the laws keep changing no one will be able to use the information from them except law enforcement.
     
  11. Feb 9, 2014 at 9:03 AM
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  12. Feb 9, 2014 at 9:06 AM
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    What does PCM stand for?
     
  13. Feb 9, 2014 at 9:08 AM
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  14. Feb 9, 2014 at 9:47 AM
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    :gossip:Vehicles with the entune radio send driving logs Back to NHTSA servers where data is backed up at NSA and is added to your overall data profile.
     
  15. Feb 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM
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    If someone told me a year ago that NSA does what they done when snowden was working for them I would not have believed it. But it easy to call someone paranoid,,,,, You think it's not coming in name of safety and greater good?
     
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    So do all of your cell phones.
     
  17. Feb 9, 2014 at 11:10 AM
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    Ok guys, I have some solid info. Airbag module is a event data recorder. i found study done by Exponent Failure Analysis Associates for Toyota corp.

    It's in PDF file. I will try to attach it.
    I will buy airbag module from ebay and will mess with pins on memory chip.
     

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  18. Feb 9, 2014 at 7:30 PM
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    Thanks Egres, keep us posted.
     
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    This is correct. I removed mine 8 years ago. There are only TWO computers in the continental US that can read the data, and they are closely guarded by TOYOTAUSA. Remember the stuck throttle shenanigans a few years ago? Even under court order Toyota didn't puke up that data. Interesting isn't it. Btw, I have a roll cage and five point harness so I deleted my airbags as well as ABS and Traction control, I'm not worried about the NSA knowing that I drive around with the throttle pinned 96% of the time lol.
     
  20. Feb 10, 2014 at 5:57 AM
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    I read that too, but I think it's not true anymore. During crash info saved on microchip on airbag module. There plenty of mechanics who can connect directly to the chip and read, erase info. OR ADD info that was not there, like slower speed. There has been court cases using this crash info. already.
    When they say "ONLY TWO UNITS" i think they mean "official toyota readers" BTW info they did not release was for "accidental acceleration" cases. All other up for grabs with court order.

    After car is totaled, insurance does not need your permission to read it. I bet it will be in contract that you wave your right on crash info.

    But you can buy readers for $400 online. You can have someone do it for $40. Watch this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8RxSz3MKuI
     
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