Just got rear ended

You obviously did not read what I wrote. They customers back when anything is wrong with the repair. This includes anything even remotely related to what we have done because we have a life time warranty on all work we do. If something was wrong with how it drove after fixing the frame they would be welcomed back with open arms. No one has taken us up on that particular issue of the vehicle not driving the same. People come back often for little nit picky stuff and we happily take care of these things so it's not that only people who have been in an accident come back.

How the hell do we have no stake in repairing that vehicle? That's stupid as hell saying that. If someone takes that vehicle and has someone gets injured or dies because of a shoddy repair job the reputation of the company is at stake and we would get sued into oblivion for doing shitty work as we should.

Again if it was such an issue why would the insurance company have that as a standard procedure if it would take a collision differently? If it causes a big enough difference to prove then it wouldn't be done. So far your just talking out of your ass with 0 evidence to speak of.

Have you ever been in a plane and seen how much the wings flex? If metal fatigue was such a serious issue the wings would fall off after a few hundred flight hours. Obviously different metals and applications but your vastly overstating the danger of something you don't understand.

 

Nope your still missing the point. As stated earlier insurance companies are for profit. Your bosses company is cheaper to pay then totaling out the truck so yes absolutely the insurance will go that route.

And again you still are missing the point about metal fatigue and why you don't see complaints about work.

I'm done here.

 

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Looks like this could get good, so many frame, metal fatigue and crumple zone experts here.

 

There is a difference there. The airplane wings are designed to flex within the materials modulus of elasticity, with steel is is possible to design it so that theoretically it will withstand infinite fatigue cycles. Aluminum eventually will fail no matter what but that is why planes have a service life, this is factored in. There is a direct relationship between stress and fatigue life, the higher the stress the lower the fatigue life. The amount of Stress (bending) that the material can withstand for a given number of cycles is based on its yield strength.

The frame on the other hand, when bent in a collision it does not "snap" back into shape because the material has exceeded it's yield strength. At this point the material has already failed and the structure of the material is no longer the same so it is inherently weaker than in its original form.



To the OP, hope the frame is ok and you can get yourself a nice plate bumper out of the deal!

 

Nailed it.

This is why they inspect planes with ultrasound to make sure they are still within spec.

 

What your saying here is that a company ICBC the government agency that provides insurance in BC would willingly open themselves up to massive legal culpability to save them selves a couple thousand dollars?

I'm not saying that a Tacoma like this
could or should be repaired. but a vehicle with a lightly damaged frame is really not as big of an issue as you make it seem.


I'm searching for a study by the NTSB about this or by a car safety rating company but I can't seem to find anything.

 

That's damn near identical to my wife's( I wasn't around to stop it) before the repair, so yea it happens.

 

That truck was hit pretty hard IIRC the bumper was pushed so that it was parallel to the ground and the box was pushed into the cab.

Hopefully OP doesn't have any significant damage to anything other than the body panels.

 

I wanna say it was silver but it was last summer when it came in so I may be off.

 

OP, glad you're ok. Looking (only) at the pics you posted...Your Tacoma > His/Her Silverado. By a long shot.

 

x2

 

It did, he spun me rather than crushed my tacoma

My frame looked nothing like that pic so we will have to see it when it gets disassembled next week (thankfully)

 

dont think I would want to pull anything heavy with that again.

 

I was a little more lucky during my rear ending that it only curled that same passenger corner of my bumper. No frame or body panel damage and the other driver paid for a body armor rear steel bumper plus cash. The only thing I have concern for in your case is the resale value since this will probably show up in a car history search and deter some buyers. Like stated above, if you can fight tooth and nail to get a new truck out of this, it would be the route I would choose. I don't think I can mentally handle driving it after repair and every squeak or issues later down the road I would somehow tie it to the accident and repair(warranted or not). Good luck OP and keep us posted.

 

Empty trailer is the most I'll pull.

 

Well I spoken with both insurance companies and the other guy has accepted "full liability" so it's his fault and his insurance will pay for all repairs/replacement

One less thing to fight for

 

Good to hear it

 

not that i am trying to stir the pot, but what about getting the frame pulled and then reinforced where the twist or bend in the frame was. Wouldnt that eliminate the metal fatigue of the frame Just my 0.02 Cents.. Glad everyone is ok...

 

I think a pulled frame remains safe in most instances. While the steel may (or may not) be a bit weaker depending on how bad it was bent, it is still strong enough to do it's job (which isn't really to resist crumpling).

 

So I just spoke with the body shop, the frame is beyond repair and will need to be replaced. They haven't come up with a final estimate but it sounds like with the frame, body work, broken suspension and labor it will be getting close to a totaled vehicle