Long Travel BS Thread

Anyone remember that matte black with red and white stripes lt 4x4 second gen that was forsale? It was caged...can't find the link.

 

Yeah, was a salvaged truck built down in baja.

 

LOL, you missed your chance!

 

lol'ed

 

While i agree that racing linked is very expensive. And i see why you guys may never do it. I still don't see links as trendy or the new cool thing.

 

Agree'd but just for conversation sake, I do feel like a lot of people may jump straight to links not realizing that a dialed in leaf spring setup may actually suit their needs just fine.

For me, play truck= Linked... Racing (till I win the lotto)= Leafs...

 

i have leafs and want links..just sayin
however i don't race... just tired of buying leaf packs, rearching them, revalving shocks against them and dealing with leaf related headaches. seems like i'm always on the bumps, so i know a revalve is in order but the limited uptravel can't be helping.
however i can see how its nearly impossible to compete in link classes given the competition. so i guess it just comes down to what your trying to do. i don't have the dough to race, but i still enjoy offroading, so i just want to build the most bulletproof setup possible that handles the best. that said i would definitely take landons linked tundra over just about any leaf sprung tundy.

 

I agree with that. Mine is a play truck only and i wasn't even looking at leaf sprung trucks. I've raced before and probably never will again. I know what it costs and that was back when a linked truck with any V8 could win 1450.

 

I'm building a 2000 truck.simply because 1450 has become 1 step lower than TT, and it's really quite sad. Too many 6 figure trucks racing a sportsman class

 

There is a cost to running a well setup leaf sprung truck but when you're talking racing at a competitive podium level finish in class, the cost of leaf maintenance is MINOR compared to what it would cost you in the grand scheme just to be on the starting line in a linked truck.

Simple as that basically...

 

I NEVER thought I'd see this from you!!!! NEVER!!!

Just my simple advice, read up on the BITD 7100 rules and build around those!!! Hindsight sucks!!!!

 

LOL, long thought out reply deleted....bottom line I'm 40 years old. I've raced the truck one time, but I've been around the "scene" plenty. Up until two years ago there really wasn't a reason to keep a leaf sprung truck leaf sprung. It was just a stepping stone to links. Do links work better? Sure they do. But if you want to race, linking your truck is a one way ticket to an empty bank account if you want to be remotely competitive. Unless you have a large cash flow.

I don't. Thanks to the creation and growth of Class 2000, you don't need to center mount your front end, drop in a big HP motor, and fork out for a 40 spline floater just to crack the Top 10. You can cage up your daily driver, add a little plating and guessting, and go get a piece of the action.

For the last five years very few in the "scene" had ambitions of building a leaf sprung truck to race. Those days are changing. Class 2000 will hopefully provide that entry level starting point that 1450 used to be and will allow guys who just want race to get in on the action without having to break the bank.

There is a whole generation of new kids who've spent the last 5 years daydreaming about 1450 trucks that are well beyond their budgets and abilities. Class 2000 will give them a place to cut their teeth and get involved at a level that suits their current situations.

For me personally, as long as 2000 stays competitive there is no reason for me to link the truck. If my truck at say $30k can be competitive in a sportsman class with great turnout, there is no reason for me to shell out another $30k to race in another sportsman class with great turnout. I guess I could say at least I'm going faster, but the money is not worth it to me. If the racing is good, I don't care if I'm doing 40mph or 80mph. Class 9 and 11 guys seems to have a pretty great time.

The only reason I'd link my truck at this point was if it became a strictly play truck that I didn't intend to race or a pro class came along that my truck could be competitive in for a reasonable price. I personally think 1450 is a great class with amazing equipment and awesome drivers. I just don't have the desire myself to spend $80k+ to try to be a front runner in a sportsman class when there are plenty of pro classes with payback that actually cost less.

Again just my personal point of view.

 

My truck is still gonna be 1450, buuut Otters hardbody is gonna be 2000, already got sponsors coming on board and truck will participate in race for the wounded program in his memory. Best and most inexpensive way to finally get his truck out racing in his memory.

 

Oh...haha know of any other 4wd lt tacomas fs?

 

Yep, I went from racing linked trucks back to leafspring 2000 class a couple years ago. I just can't afford to be competitive in the linked class. ( im not one of the country club kids with mommy and daddy forking out mass $$$$ )
But I love racing a desert truck and class 2000 has became awesome lately. The battles and racing in that class is super fun and competitive.
But I agree with Landon, if you are just going to have fun and not race, Link it! Smoother and easier to deal with.
But 90% of leafspring trucks are set up wrong so I can see why many people get frustrated dealing with leafs

 

Leaf springs that sack out and give little uptravel is one. I would say that alone covers about 90% of them

 

Improper shackle length, set up, improper spacing of pivots, improper cycling, too much negative arch, never do proper valving, too slow rebound, etc

 

this exactly ^^^^^

Every possibility is wrong. Anybody on this Forum ride in my truck before? It works damn good. (im not just saying it because its my truck, but because of the many mistakes I made over the years and I have learned
to set it up right).
I have used F-67's, H70, E-30, and 50T packs. Years of different options as far as shackle lengths, etc... I have said many times that setting up a linked truck is easy because you are working with so much travel. Its like setting up an equal Length I-beam front end. They always feel good because of the travel.
But setting up a leafspring truck can get complicated. Use Sick Nick or Tim at DMZ. They know how to set up a leafsprung truck and of course I know there are other guys too who know. But be careful because many guys do not know how to do it properly.

 

another reason i went straight to links lol.

 

Because nobody cares you who are at Tree Bar unless you're #linked with a #V8.