Putin

Did I say that? I was commenting on the video that was just shown.

In fact, I am glad we haven't gone in there yet or started sanctions. I don't think it's our fight. It's Europe's.

 

Agreed. For once maybe we'll stay out of it. Much more important things going on that isn't on the news.

 

I'm not sure, that's why I asked. I thought the backbone comment was about obama. I have just heard people blaming obama for the invasion and thought you were too.
I agree with you that we have no business getting involved with this.

 

What pissed me off, is that we are already sending cash to help ukraine out. Damn, we need cash spread around our own country first.

 

No, the invasion is a lot of little things steam rolled. It all involved corrupt politics in both Ukraine and Russia, and the media's Russian coverage in the russian speaking area of Ukraine. Years and years of propaganda by the russian media in the Crimea region about how the Ukrainians were going to be forcing them all to speak Ukrainian and were planning on an ethnic cleansing.

But, the no backbone was about "him." I'll stand by that for years. But that isn't for this thread.

 

Putin is nothing but bully, and Obama is that kid on the playground who is always getting beat up. Sad.


Oh, IBTL.

 

Gotcha. I agree that obama is definately not an intimidating president.

Yes, it definately seems putin has been planting the seed of unrest into ukraine and was waiting for his chance to pounce.

 

It's was during a Nuclear Security Summit

President Medvedev was going to tell the incoming President Putin that Obama was going to concede to Putin's opposition to the missile defense network being built in and around Europe against ballistic missiles.

Missiles that could be fired by Iran into Europe
Russia is the main supplier to Iran for nuclear support and is trying to get more allies in the Middle East like Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon

It's all supposed to happen this way... Russia will get a bunch of countries together and then attack Israel. Basic Bible prophecy coming true... Again

 

What are you worried about? We've got plenty of money.

 

It's only a $1 billion

Next year's tax increase of $1 trillion for all of us in the US

That will be spread around like crabs at spring break

 

...guess who was pushing to disarm ukraine in 2005...

http://www.nationalreview.com/campa...-predicted-except-tom-clancy-did-jim-geraghty

...it was romney who had the right calculus on russia/putin...

 

That would explain why nobody is fighting back in the Ukraine

We are definately in trouble ... We have been sold out



SKYNET will become self aware soon... Lol

 

Imagine that , west vs east proxy wars

I personally don't believe in Bible prophecy as fact so I can't comment on that

 

c'mon oz, you may be canadian, but it's in english...

low level translation: after the election, i can stop pretending to be tough w/ russia, ...which means i'll give more unilateral concessions to russia - i.e. halting missile defense projects in europe, opposing the independence of former republics, etc...

high level translation:
after the election, i'll bend over, you tel vladimir he can have his way...

 

Maybe , maybe not

I don't necessarily think arms control is a bad thing

 

C'mon David, I know you know better.... Who always has Israel's back no matter what, right or wrong ?? Palestine & Israel are both newbs as countries go, & personally I don't give 2 shits if they exterminate each other, the U.S. HAS no allies or friends in the middle east, we like to think we do, but we don't..Israel included, they're no real "friend" to the U.S. they don't have to be, this sounds shitty but any of the Jews that have clout or that matter are already here....in power....in gov. & Obama is no stronger or weaker than any other pres. has been, they all get their marching orders from another source/authority

 

in all of recorded human history, ...at least one thing is consistent and persistent, ...the ongoing wrangling for superiority between weapon and armor... one trumps the other, ....until vice-versa, ...to infinity...

 

Sure , but once you have the ability to kill everyone on the planet , is having the ability to kill everyone 100 times over even better , or necessary ?

Or is it a waste of resources , I believe the latter is true

 

I love the "scorched earth" concept... It really wipes the Pitri dish clean to start over fresh.....

 

Once again, with no real skin in the game, the chicken-hawks in our government are flexing their muscles, salivating at yet another opportunity to go to war, only to benefit their wealthy supporters in the defense industry. We can't even straighten out our own problems here, and yet we are puffing up over people half a world away we wouldn't otherwise give a shit about.