help lift doesn't make sense 04 taco

Hello all,
I am having trouble achieving the look I want with my truck.. I have fox CO in front, camburg UCA and brand new stock rear springs with 4" re-arc. As well as a 3" body lift on 275\85r16 tires, 33".

I feel like the truck is lifted as much as possible here without doing a fabtech 3-6 drop kit. But when I look at other guys trucks online ipthey seem just as high as me and almost no one has the 3" body lift.. Should this setup not sit 6" higher than stock? Same as 6" fabtech? It seems so much smaller than I thought it would be, am I wrong??

Thanks for any input,

 

I don't think you're getting 4" of lift from rearched stock leaf springs. Even if you were able to get the springs arched to 4" over stock, they wouldn't fit or you'd have horrible shackle angle and risk inverting the shackles and damaging the springs.

You mention the FOX coilovers but didn't say if they were lifted. You might have smaller than 3" of lift with your front suspension, and I personally think you definitely don't have 3" of lift from your rear suspension. Dunno what to you about your body lift other than 3" is big for a BL and I wouldn't do it.

Who installed the parts? It might help to show us closeup photos of the components being used.

 

Hey, thanks for the help, alright I will try to clarify..

The body lift is already installed in the previous photo, that was installed by the previous owner.. I think that's where I am getting most of my lift. The re arc of the rear springs definitely brought it up at least 2" in ride height. So I adjusted my fox fronts (extended travel remote red, installed by myself) to match the rear. And that is where it's sitting now.

From center of the hub to the edge of the front fender (in height) measures 25.5 inches and the rear measures 26.5. After taking out the 3" BL I'm not sure how much suspension lift I am left with

Can these Fox's be lifted more with preload? I'm not sure how high to go!?!?!?!

 

Ya you have a lot more room for lift with those coilovers. If I were you I would ditch the body lift and crank the coils down some.

 

My fear is straining the c.v's, is there any clear may to know when you have gone too far?

I wonder how I would manage to balance the rear if I adjusted the fronts up more.. I would hate to have to use a block , maybe I could get a new, longer, main leaf made up and arc the whole pack up..

 

You could always do the slide mod and install a diff drop the help with the angle of the CVs

 

I did the slide mod already, just to be on the safe side, no diff drop yet, just because I read mixed reviews on them, does a 1" diff tilt actually make a difference?

 

Sounds like you already have maybe & it sounds like you just want a tall ass truck.. As mentioned for the rear you can go 3"-3.5" tops , anymore & you'll really start putting the shackles out of spec.... But also you seem to be kinda all over the map as to what you want, so, think about what you want for a final result ...


EDIT: Also , for the front CV's with IFS 3" is the max you can go without going to a drop bracket (which isn't cheap, the gain isn't worth the cost IMO) So, 3" in front, tops, anything over & the CV's will be out of range
also..

 

My plan is not to have a tall ass truck.. I would not have invested 3000 in fox coilovers and camburg UCAS, I would have just jumped into a 6" fabtech. I simply would like to know if there's is a clear line as to how high I can adjust my front within safe operating limits. You must have misunderstood me, and I'm sorry if you could not follow the mods that I have done and the one that was previously on the truck.

I want the truck to perform on trails. This is the direction I am headed.

 

Then dump the BL and get better springs for the rear. You're center of gravity is too high for an IFS truck and for it to preform well on the trail you're better off with a quality 3" lift. You have a great start to that on the front end, now just upgrade the rear.

Low frame height + big tires + travel = capability

 

Fair enough, I kinda shut down with the mentioning of body lifts in conjunction with the quality parts you DO have, but i digress , so are you keeping the body lift ?? Or is it coming off ?? & I know you'll be told different but why anyone would want to lift a 1st gen more than 3"-4" is beyond me.. & pretty sure in a short time you'll find re-ARCing the stock leafs was a waste of time & $$$, & going to a longer main leaf is going to require relocating/re-configuring the front hanger so you're still within driveline specs in relation to the axle/driveshaft

 

Thanks for clearing that up, I never liked the body lift from the begining, I will be removing it. I thought I could get away with simply arcing the packs that were there because they were brand new, I did get 2" out of them.. The full 3 would have been good, both for added clearance and available space in the wheel well.
This is ball troublesome because I never had the truck at stock height so
I am having a difficult time determining how much I have since added, and what is a ideal height. Can anyone chime in of center of hub to fender measurements?

Thanks again for all the input, these lifts are not commonly done in my area.

 

If you are looking for good balanced trail performance, your front setup is pretty good. Might be able to adjust the coilovers up a little, but I wouldn't just yet.

First order of business if it were my truck would be to remove the bodylift.

Leave the front alone and trim and do firewall clearancing to clear tires if necessary.

Get some different leaf springs for the rear that have the amount of lift you want. Ideally you want about a 3" lift spring in the rear. Lots of options out there for that. Personally I'd go with OME Dakars or AllPro Expos. The reached springs will be ok for a little while but rearched springs fatigue quickly and will return to their original arc so you'll see the rear end sag pretty quickly is my guess if you keep the rearched springs.

 

Just to give you an idea here are my hub to fender #'s after adding a 3" lift with eibach coils and 5100's and Dakar leaf springs w/ 1.5" lift shackles.

Driver side Front = 24.75"
Pass. Side front = 25.00"
Driver side rear = 25.25"
Pass. Side rear = 25.25"

I have since added a 115# plate bumper and 45# skid plate and haven't measured what my front numbers are. But just to be clear, these numbers are with stock bumper and stock skid plate.

With you being just a little higher than me I'm guessing the coils are only cranked at about 1.5" lift or less, but that's just a guess from the numbers you posted.

 

First off, thanks box rocket, that is some sound advice I will be ditching the BL, and after doing some research those OME rears really look like a good lift option, I am dissatisfied with my current rearced springs.. Also you have peaked my interested with firewall trimming, in fact, my tires do rubb lock to lock on the inside of the fender.. I assume its mostly due to the wheel spacers.. Is there a good write-ups out there for a clean well trimming? I am not exaxtly trained in body work, but I have had my hands in just about everything else..

Second, also thanks to mainmoe02, your numbers are impressive to me, seeing as you do not have a BL. it seems to me with a little work in the rear I can maintain my current look (pretty much) and rid myself of that awful BL!

I plan to also run 5100's in the rear, I would like to get the 10" versions, I have fabbed up some ears to mount directly onto the axle, and a square tube to run across the frame rails, do you think I will have the space to run 10" without cutting into the bed? I would prefer to stay away from / \ I do happen to use the truck for work from time to time.. I wish I had a dedicated taco..

 

If you are wanting to tub your firewall, take a look at Monty's build thread starting at this post where he documents how he trimmed to fit 35's.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/1s...ild-lt-expo-trail-rig-bs-311.html#post7975917

However, if you're only going to run 33's you don't need to go that extreme. I little trimming of the fender flares and pinch weld along with some time with a big hammer against the firewall should give adequate room to fit 33's.

 

Rip off the body lift!

 

That bus has left the station.

 

Here are my measurements with 100% factory suspension before lift (center of hub to bottom of fender):

Front Left: 20 1/8''
Front Right: 20 3/4''
Rear Right: 21 7/8''
Rear Left: 21 7/8''

I hope that helps.