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Help out in the search for Flight 370..

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  1. Mar 13, 2014 at 9:09 PM
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    Me neither

    I think the plane is in one piece somewhere in Indonesia, however, I dont think it will remain there.

    Hmmm.... what`s in Indonesia ?
     
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    Some serious fishy going on, I think.
    No matter what has happened, all I can say is I feel bad for the passengers and their families and friends, must be a very stressful worried filled time for them not knowing.
     
  5. Mar 14, 2014 at 4:01 PM
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    ...very eerie indeed...
     
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    I now have a new theory after reading and watching a lot of stuff.

    Whoever was flying depressurized the cabin, which would explain the huge jump in altitude. It makes sense watching that YouTube video of that guy that showed it shooting up high and then resuming a normal flight path. This caused the passengers to fall asleep at the least or potentially just killed them all that way. Wouldn't even see it coming. Cut off the trackers and are hiding it somewhere.

    Two women stepped forward and said on the flight before the pilots let them in the cockpit and were flirting with them.
     
  7. Mar 14, 2014 at 7:31 PM
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    if the cabin lost pressure those air masks would have dropped?
     
  8. Mar 14, 2014 at 7:57 PM
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    That's true but the oxygen generators are designed to provide enough breathable air for the passengers until the aircraft either can fly down below 12,000 ft where the air is more dense with higher oxygen levels... these oxygen generators will only work for 12-20 minutes

    If the pilots put on their oxygen masks and dumped pressurization and flew unpressurized for more than 30 minutes above 20,000 feet the passengers are dead. There are several supplemental oxygen tanks with masks for the flight attendants to use for emergencies such as loss of cabin pressure so the FAs can walk around and assist passengers but they may have already passed out and passed away

    I hope the pilots didn't do that
     
  9. Mar 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM
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    Dumping cabin pressurization will not change the altitude of the aircraft... Only the pilots can do that if they are hand flying the aircraft or the autopilot can if the pilots change the altitude setting

    I think the altitude changes where to scare the flight attendants and the passengers causing a panic - which would cause them to pass out faster
     
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    I didn't say changing the pressure would make the altitude change. I'm saying they changed the altitude to aid in passing out/killing them. They can still lower the oxygen level without dropping pressure and causing the masks to drop.

    I know this because my grandpa was a pilot way back in the day and he was flying some civil air patrol kids to Florida to watch the missiles launch. I guess they were being really rowdy in the back so he lowerd the oxygen enough to get them to fall asleep haha. Obviously you'd get in a lot of trouble doing that today, didn't care much back then.
     
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    When I first read about the flying for 4 hours thing and the jump in altitude, I thought about how the same thing happened with depressurization in the Payne Stewart incident. If the COCKPIT depressurized first, and they hit the wrong thing in a panic, or there was a small enough explosion by the cockpit to knock a hole and depressurize, and mess up the transponder controls, but not enough to knock the plane out of the air, you could have something happen. But similarly, picture an attempt to commandeer the aircraft with a shoe bomb that goes off in a struggle after someone shuts off the transponder and resets the auto-pilot. Then it depressurizes and everyone goes unconscious, leaving the autopilot to fly a new course.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash
     
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    On midnight flights, the first thing airline pilots do after leveling out at whatever cruise altitude, is to set the cabin altitude higher ... the higher cabin altitude/lower cabin pressure means the oxygen level is lower and most passengers fall asleep. The pilots can only change the oxygen level by raising the cabin altitude - like around 8500-9000 feet. The masks drop when the cabin altitude is above 14,000 feet on most large passenger airline aircraft

    Pilots can control cabin altitude/pressure while maintaining flight altitude
     
  13. Mar 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM
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    I think the pilot was in full control of the 777 ... My opinion
     
  14. Mar 14, 2014 at 8:55 PM
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    Well, if you watch The Discovery Channel long enough, you will learn about all sorts of satellites that don't need sunlight.

    It's possible none of them were overhead at the time though, and they tend to be in polar orbits so they are not over the area for very long.
     
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    I would think that once people realized something was wrong, they would fire up their cell phones like they did on 9/11. Over the ocean maybe it wouldn't do any good. But so many people have world phones now that if they were anywhere near land - even over a 3rd world country - they could get a Vodaphone signal. It's possible someone who had a plan to use depressurization to keep people unconscious might not realize that even in the cockpit they would only have 20-30 minutes. And the thing about oxygen deprivation is you very quickly lose the ability to think clearly. So you can't think of what you were intending to do after shutting off the transponder...
     
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    Cell Phones don't work without a cell tower ... They don't work at 35,000 feet even if you fly over a cell tower

    The pilots put their masks on before depressurization ... My opinion

    The pilots have 2 large green 'aviators breathing oxygen' cylinders in the Electronics bay under the flight deck. These cylinders supply only the pilot and copilot oxygen masks and the masks at the 2 jump seats. They each hold around 50 cubic inches of oxygen and are serviced up to 1850 psi. Hours of oxygen for the pilots. The flight attendants have bottles they can grab too. Much smaller

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    Some flags and center console divider... lots of things on the wanted list.
    Just read one where Malaysia says it was hijacked now
     
  19. Mar 15, 2014 at 12:52 AM
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    The story gets more and more fishy everyday.

    Somebody knows something and aint telling.

    Malaysia did not work with any country for almost a week, we should be asking the question, why.
     
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    Very good point

    Either the passengers never got on the plane or once they got on the plane or in the air, all phones were confiscated and/or destroyed. Or, everyone on board was shot once the plane got in the air.

    This would explain why no friends/family never received a phone call. Either way, there is a reason no phone calls were made.
     
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