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Reloading BS thread

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by 95 taco, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. Mar 20, 2014 at 8:53 AM
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    I think it just isn't popular, most ammo that is berdan primed is steel cased. And the fact that berdan primers aren't as easy to find

    The decappers actually pierce the primer and pry them out pretty much. I haven't seen it done, but I've heard of people using small modified chisels and a hammer along with something to grip the case
     
  2. Mar 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM
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    The PITA part is just getting the old primer out. Weird thing for Ya'll, trivia wise. Berdan was an American who designed that primer system and Europe took it and ran with it. Boxer was a European, we took his primer system and ran with it. Boxer is MUCH easier to reload even though they both do the same thing.
     
  3. Mar 29, 2014 at 1:21 PM
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    The primer pocket has two flash holes on a Berdan.

    Isn't there a method of using water under pressure to force out the primer?
     
  4. Mar 31, 2014 at 8:05 PM
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    I have a case stuck in a die :(.

    If I can't get it out tomorrow, I'll take a pic for suggestions.

    It went up like normal, but when it came down the rim pulled right off the case. I guess that's what I get for picking up other people's discarded brass at the range. Plenty of lube was used.
     
  5. Mar 31, 2014 at 8:16 PM
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    If the head is still on it, can you remove the expander/decapper? If so, just unthread the plug & tap it out with a dowel or pumper punch. If not, you might have to use the expander/decapper as the punch. I had to sacrifice one like that last year. Mangled the expander driving out the case, but a new one was only a few bucks.
     
  6. Apr 2, 2014 at 6:23 PM
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    no. I tried to use a screw extractor at first, but the tip broke off inside. Because of that, the decapper pin wasn't able to go at a straight angle. I tried using it as the punch and using the press to dislodge the stuck case. I just bent the crap out of the decapping pin.

    not sure what to do now. i have a stuck and bent decapping pin and a case with no bottom stuck in the die. I can put it in the press and try to drill it out....

    I'm afraid it might just be less headache to buy a new die set. I can get the Hornady and get a 100 free bullets with their Get Loaded 2014 promotion.

    Whatever I do, I think I'm going to look at lube other than the One Shot.
     
  7. Apr 2, 2014 at 7:10 PM
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    It's so convenient though! I use it and about every 150 cases I spray some up into the sizer die to help. I've also realized that you have to make sure it's shaken up often otherwise you're spraying the propellant and not as much lube.
     
  8. Apr 3, 2014 at 3:39 AM
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    X2. I learned the same way. Wasnt shaking the can enough and was having sticking issues and splitting necks. Once I realized what I was doing, works great.
     
  9. Apr 3, 2014 at 4:22 AM
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    I use One Shot, and have had a case stuck. I ended up pulling the die, and using a butane torch, heating the die to enable a punch to get the case out. Granted it has to be done pretty quick since the heat transfer between the brass and the steel takes place almost immediately, but I got it done. Then I hit the interior of my sizing die with a little WD-40 on a Q-Tip.
     
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    I've been shaking it and the ball inside rattles freely. I guess I must not have been shaking it enough. I'll try to shake it like a Polaroid picture. (Sorry, couldn't resist)

    I tried putting the die in the freezer thinking that the metal would contract and allow it to slide out. I didn't think about heating it up. Since brass is pretty soft, that just might work.
     
  11. Apr 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM
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    Hey guys just bought a Ruger LCP 380. Wanting to reload ammo for it. I have what I need except dies. Me and Dad reload everything. However we have never reloaded 380 and I see the 3 and 4 set dies. Which is better?
     
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    Just got done loading 100 rounds of .45 acp and prepping another 2-300 pieces of brass

    Loaded with 4.6 grains of titegroup and a 230 grain lead round nose (which I get for $40 per 500). Got more to load tomorrow night now
     
  13. Apr 29, 2014 at 8:15 PM
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    The 4 die set most likely includes the Factory Crimp Die. I bet you are referring to Lee dies? The FCD is a nice tool to have, it makes the rounds more consistent and does the proper crimp for the caliber. You are going to find out the LCP is not a range weapon at all. Being so small it is a little on the snappy side.
     
  14. Apr 29, 2014 at 8:54 PM
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    Yep looking at the Lee dies. I'm not opposed to buying RCBS dies if I need to. I'm running them out of an LCP so I'm not so much on accuracy as producing a consistent reliable round for plinking. Just not sure if I really need that extra die.
     
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    For what extra it costs, buy the 4 die set. Especially loading for a semi auto, you want ammo as consistant as possible for reliable cycling.
     
  16. Apr 30, 2014 at 9:11 AM
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    Thanks. Is Lee or RCBS better than the other? Personally I have always used RCBS and lyman.
     
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    You are going to open a can of worms with that one. Everyone has there favorites. I personally use lee dies and I have had exactly zero issues with them. I use the for single stage rifle reloading and they work well for me and product consistent ammo. But everyone has an opinion.
     
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    You get what ypu pay for. Aside from very precision reloading, a Lee set will do everything you need with great results. High end sets will probably have a nicer finish on them and be of tighter machining tolerances.
     
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    Dies are mostly interchangeable. If you're a precision reloader, or use lots of different types of bullets in a single caliber, some features like micrometer seating dies are worth paying for.
     
  20. May 1, 2014 at 6:08 PM
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    Ordered a set of Lee dies with the crimp die. Guess I will see how they do. Its an LCP I'm loading them for so accuracy is not the best to begin with.
     
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