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885s I can't sell and new 5100 I just received????

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by solus, Aug 12, 2009.

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  1. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM
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    He means OME 885's on the lowest setting vs. OEM springs on the 2.5" setting.
     
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  2. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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  3. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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    Actually, the 885's, even with .425" preload (.85" lift), rides a little softer than the OEM springs under 1.25" preload (2.5" lift). The OEM springs when preloaded to give 2.5" lift, or 3" lift with revtec, have a rate of just over 700#, where as the OME 885's under preload to give .85" lift, have a rate around 650# to 675#.
     
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  4. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:53 PM
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    BUILT, not bought...
    Chris4x4 knows all.

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  5. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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  6. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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    Well...No...I have been wrong many times. :anonymous: But I know a bit about this suspension..stuff....with the bouncy...thingys...
     
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  7. Aug 12, 2009 at 6:57 PM
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  8. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:06 PM
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    ok, makes sense... now the real question, can one really tell a difference in the ~4-7% difference in spring rates?!

    did you do this testing or what? cause thats good technical info that would be good to sticky for all the newbs looking to lift their trucks!
     
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  9. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:11 PM
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    I did ride in 2 different trucks with different lifts. One with the 5100's, and 885's set at .85" lift, one with a 3" revtec spacer. The one with the spacer rode very rough, where as the one with the 5100's had a good ride, although more firm than the 885's on OME shocks I have on my truck. When I did the math on the OEM springs being preloaded to 3" lift, the spring rate I came up with was over 700#'s, but I cant find my notes or anything, so I dont have the exact number. The truck with the Revtec lift was running OEM TRD Bilstiens, so that could have played a role as well.
     
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  10. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM
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    So, I need a recommendation than... sitting on my floor right now I have OME 885 coils, 4 Bilstein shocks, and toytec AAL... should i:

    1. Install all of these (5100 at 0, 885 springs, etc)
    2. Install 5100s at 2.5 and aal
     
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  11. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM
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    yea, im thinking the difference in damping between the shocks was the main reason for the rough/smooth ride. again, i could be wrong, but i dont see how ~5% difference in spring rate could make that much of a difference.

    i have a program from one of my classes that would plot out the damping ratios and such in excel. i'll have to dig that out. it would be interesting to see how the two setups would compare.

    see if you can dig up the spring rates and damping ratios for the two setups and i'll do the same and then we can plug those into my program an see the engineering results!

    ok, break!
     
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  12. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:32 PM
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    i honestly dont think you can go wrong with #1, you could always switch it up if you dont like it, or even get some OEM nitrocharger front shocks to complement your springs.
     
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  13. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM
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    The spring rate of the OEM spring is 540# and the OME 885 is 590#
    Dampening of the 5100 and the OME n140s is 255 N-sec rebound, and 170 N-sec. compression. Not sure what the OEM shocks are.
     
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  14. Aug 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM
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    X2.
     
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  15. Aug 12, 2009 at 8:05 PM
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    cool, so the 5100 and the OME have the same rate, so really does not matter much if you use the OME springs w/ the 5100s or the nitrochargers...except for the little preload you get /w the bills
     
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  17. Aug 12, 2009 at 8:23 PM
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    Well, if these 885s don't sell by monday then... I'm putting all of it together...
     
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  18. Aug 12, 2009 at 9:03 PM
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    the rate is the same, however, the way the dampening is delivered is a bit different. I havent taken the 2 apart to see the differences, but the OME shocks are much softer riding than the 5100's with the same springs. They feel the same initially, but after the first inch or so of travle, the OME's soften up, and then get firm in the last 2 inches or so to prevent bottoming.
     
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  19. Aug 12, 2009 at 9:04 PM
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    LOL! Thanks, Man. :)
     
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    will these cause any damage to my truck?
     
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