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Discussion in 'New Members' started by Mikeyjd, May 17, 2014.

  1. May 27, 2014 at 2:53 PM
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    StAndrew

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    Intake, exhaust, lift. Typical stuff.
    Careful, for an electric fan to work, it will have to cool more efficiently than the OEM clutch fan. You lose efficiency transferring mech energy to electrical (via your alternator) and again when you transfer from electrical to mechanical (via your fan motor). Dont use an "on" "off" switch as that will give you alternator a power shock. It has to come on slowly. Check out the Flex-a-lite speed control modules.

    Also, don't let the engine get too hot or you may lose your internal combustion efficiency (as the internal temps go up, the ECM may pull timing).

    Lastly, on your gearing/RPM's. Lower RPM's are not always the best. You need to find the RPM that is the max efficiency for your engine, usually between 1000 and 2000 RPM's. Sometimes you can loose MPG's from going too low.
     
  2. May 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM
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    Mikeyjd

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    Appreciate the advice. I understand the efficiency losses between the fan types. I plan to keep temps below 200, so whatever needs to happen to make that a reality will be the case. I rarely drive at constant throttle and always aim for 75-85% engine load during acceleration phase to achieve peak bsfc while avoiding WOT ;)
     
  3. May 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM
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  4. May 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM
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    Mikeyjd

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    I'm not positive, I'm guessing it's 3.545 based on the B03 mark.
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  5. May 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM
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    AR15xAR10

    AR15xAR10 AR10 is 5 ARs better

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    You also need a TW sticker if you don't have one. It gains you at least 15hp and 0.329161016 mpg. :D lololol
     
  6. May 27, 2014 at 3:17 PM
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    ;)
     
  7. May 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM
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    Mod: Power Steering Belt Removed
    Savings: 1mpg or 36.75gallons/$147 per year based on 10,000 miles
    Time: 2 Minutes
     
  8. May 27, 2014 at 3:27 PM
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    I should be able to hit 30mpg on my next fillup :)
     
  9. May 27, 2014 at 3:41 PM
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    AR15xAR10

    AR15xAR10 AR10 is 5 ARs better

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    :) I sure hope you find it worth all the removal of these wonderful luxuries! I'm not giving up my power steering or AC! Lol
     
  10. May 27, 2014 at 3:55 PM
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    If I reach my goal of $2,500 saved per year (by doubling the EPA estimate of 16mpg) I will save $25,000 in the 10 years I plan on owning this truck. I figure this will allow me to purchase another rental property and continue to live mortgage free and debt free on a modest income. I enjoy the challenge of it and the savings that it brings. To each his own :cheers:
     
  11. May 27, 2014 at 4:00 PM
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    Oh, well shit....in that case, carry on!!! Best of luck :D
     
  12. May 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM
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    Won't that make steering a ***** and unsafe?

    Great plan!
     
  13. May 27, 2014 at 7:41 PM
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    NOLA ItsNotOva

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    This is one of the most interesting threads I've read on here lol. I give you props, because I don't have the patience to drive like that to achieve your gas mileage nor would I want to take out the A/C or power steering because of my area lol. Def subbed. Curious to see how you will continue to make improvements. Good luck!
     
  14. May 27, 2014 at 7:44 PM
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    Maybe if you have pencil arms :p

    Thanks :)
     
  15. May 27, 2014 at 8:00 PM
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    Ha. Ha.
     
  16. May 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM
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    My first trip towing the tool trailer. I had a 52 mile round trip of mixed driving. I hit 21mpg and only brought my overall tank average down to 27. :)
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  17. May 28, 2014 at 12:34 PM
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    explains the better gas mileage then. most 31" are on 4.10 gears. If you have 3.53 then you "should" be running 225/70-15s from factory (95-97ish were still using 15's)
     
  18. May 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM
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    I'll happily make the gearing a little taller with the 245/75/16's. They are close enough to stock size that it shouldn't create any issues with the clutch/trans/diff, and should provide better fuel economy + load rating.
     
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  19. May 29, 2014 at 9:25 AM
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    I'm not saying you should, hey if it works then keep it as is. BUT know that the PO put larger tires on without re-gearing so that would explain to others more of why you're seeing around 30 mpg daily. And it's not taking much of a hit if you feather it and don't carry any load in the truck. Like you said less rolling mass all around means less work to get the truck moving.
     
  20. May 29, 2014 at 10:38 AM
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    :amen:
     

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