Firearm BS thread

Had a leo on a job many years ago who dumped an entire 9mm clip into a dude. He reached her, but bled out at the last second. Better hope that headshot under pressure comes after a few center mass hits. I just love a .40.

 

Look at modern ballistics and the minute difference in expansion/power is made up by capacity.

I'm more than confident that my 9mm HSTs and Gold Dots will do what I need them to do as long as I do my part. If you can't hit shit with a 45 it isn't going to magically save your life...

 

I make it a point to not take advice or even anecdotal 'evidence' from people who use the term 'clip' when describing a magazine.

 

Lol nice!
I also read this article the other day, http://www.policeone.com/patrol-iss...ne-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/

Tl:dr for the article: the cop shot a guy and landed a bunch of center of mass hits with a .45 glock 21 the perp didn't go down until the cop tagged him in the head a couple times. Since the incident te cop carries a 9mm glock in place of the .45

Read the article it's eye opening, especially for those who think a .40 is some trump card.

 

9mm vs .40 vs .45



Plenty of people have been killed by the 9mm to prove its effectiveness.
Plenty of people have been killed by the .40 to prove its effectiveness.
Plenty of people have been killed by the .45 to prove its effectiveness.

Plenty of people have survived gunshot wounds from each caliber too. Doesn't mean the caliber's no good, just means that they were lucky, that the person pulling the trigger was a lousy shot, they had amazing surgeons, or a combination of the three.

Anybody who tells you that any of those three calibers is 'junk' is an idiot.

I'll put my soapbox away now...

 

In before "if you think 9mm is weak stand in front of one"

 

9 mm +P JHP 147 grain is what I have to lightly toss at any unwelcome visitors to my house. I also have 165 gr FMJ .40 for my other pistol. I very much agree with Ostrichsak that putting the bullet in the right spot means more than rowing a bigger bullet.

 

"I can kill you with one shot to the head with either a .22, a 9mm or a .45. Just so happens I can shoot you in the face more times with a 9 than a .45"

 

In the zombie apocalypse, the 9 is better because you can shoot more zombies in the head before having to reload

 

This, of course, assumes that all you'll be shooting in the face in the event of a zombipocalypse are zombies. This is the point of preparing for such an event because it's 1 part unknown (zombies) and 1 part bad people that you will have to account for. Doing so in advance means you will be better prepared for either situation independent of the other which means you'll be better prepared for ANY situation that can present itself any day of the week. If I can shoot more zombies in the head it also means that in a more likely scenario I'll be able to dispatch of several humans should the need arise too. Bad guys can be solo or they can come in packs. I prefer to be better prepared for both situations and capacity is the single easiest way to make sure you've got a better chance at that perfect shot on more targets should the need present itself.

 

For my 9 mm, I have 1 Promag 32 round mag, and 7 factory S&W 17 round mags, and an uplula to load them all.

When out wheeling a few weeks ago in an area with nobody around, the 3 of us pulled out guns to take out beer cans and plastic bottles on a log. I went to town unloading about 80 rounds in one standing. The log had a few extra holes after that.

 

I always aim for the face. Some like this tactic, some hate it. But I rarely miss.

=I

 

I agree!

lmao
Would "bullet-holding stick" have made you less defensive?

Cool! Gonna read the story in a bit. I didn't say .40 is a trump card, btw, in case you were referring to me. All is well.

You are right!

Yeah, I worked something up in Utah where this kid, wasted on mushroom tea, pulled his .22 from his pants and dropped his girlfriend 15' away with one shot. Kid is in for life. Nutty. Also had a dude in South Central take a .40 just North of his heart and he's fine. M'eh.

Please don't read too much into my post, gentlemen. Idgaf what you shoot as long as you like it. I don't care to prove any point, because there's none to be made. I found the article interesting is all.

 

I have actually experienced the power of a .22 firsthand, and I can only say that I would not want to take one anywhere other than where it hit/went through me. Ever. I was extremely, extremely lucky.

I can't even imagine what a larger caliber with a heavier bullet feels like, but the 22LR felt like someone hauled off and hit me with a nice thick broom handle in the back of the leg.

 

Not you specifically just dudes that will scoff at 9 and extoll 40 can be a little overwhelming to my thought glands

 

Dang. Glad you're alright. Someone just careless with a gun? And did it stay in your leg?

Copy that!

 

His point on that is magazine. A magazine holds the bullets and feeds them into the chamber. A clip holds bullets together to make loading a gun or magazine easier.

 

Thanks, man. Yeah, it was a little surreal how it happened. I was about to leave the range and just talking to a buddy about where we were going for lunch when I got hit. I honeslty thought someone had hit me in the leg with a bat or something, so I spun around and there was nobody there! I kept saying "What the fuck was that?!" My friend was cracking up because he thought I took a riccochet. I've taken plenty of those, and they never hit that hard. So I hobbled over to the tailgate of my truck that was about 10' away and sat down. It hadn't really started bleeding at that point, but when he and the guy who was shooting right next to us decided to lift my pant leg, that's when a stream of blood shot out both sides of my leg. Haha. My buddy was like, "Dude, you got shot!" and started chuckling. I just said, "Are you fking kidding me?" All I could think of was how much it was going to cost me.
So I started looking around me and saw another guy lying on his back about 30' to our right. My first thought at that point was that some asshole was shooting people. Turns out, what had happened was this guy, who was a good 300+lbs, was sitting in a plastic folding chair and sighting in his mk3 when the damn chair collapsed underneath him, sending him over backwards. I'm ASSUMING he pressed the trigger when his hand hit the ground, sending that little 36 grain ball of death right through my leg. Like clean through the thickest part of my right calf.

All of that happened in about 30 seconds, by the way.

So here I am sitting on the tailgate of my truck with blood pouring out of my leg, and the entire range(except for my two saviors) starts gathering around the guy who shot me to see if he was OK. Haha. Like 15 people ran right past me.

Luckily it was retired fire and EMT personnel day at the range or something, because there were several of them fighting over what position my leg should be in. Meanwhile, the my buddy, who was a Blackhawk pilot, and the other guy, who was a Marine Corps lifesaver, got the bleeding stopped.

That was pretty much it. My friend drove me to the hospital and I stayed overnight. The bullet went right between the tib/fib and didn't hit anything vital on the way through. The doctors were amazed. One doctor came in that evening and started doing geometry problems to illustrate how just a tiny change of trajectory from that 30' distance could have easily meant I got hit in the torso or head instead. Pretty scary.

The whole thing was pretty humorous if you take out the part where I could just as easily have died. But shit happens, and I didn't die, so there's that. But I have that experience now. I just wish the scars were bigger so I actually had something to show off when telling the story.

 

Larue, that is a crazy story. Pretty cool how you know that you can shrug off getting tagged in the leg I bet!

My dad who is a firefighter in my hometown here in winnipeg has told me a couple wild stories about natives taking .22 to the head (yes two seperate occasions which he was fortunate enough to attend). I'd tell them here if you guys wanna here them?