New Chevy Colorado mega-thread

Doesn't the Tacoma and Tundra share the same 4.0 V6 engine?

 

They did years ago, now the Tundra uses a 4.6L. They may the change something like 4-5 years ago I think...

Despite what you might assume with economies of scale auto companies avoid having the same engine between two different class sizes. It makes the little truck seem powerful and the big truck seem weak. Think about the example of the dodge dakota v8, which was never actually powerful but people thought it was because it had an engine from the Ram. I'm sure that sabotaged a few higher profit Ram sales.

 

According to the Toyota Tundra 2014 brochure, it appears they offer 3 engines, including the 4.0 V6. Am I missing something?

 

I knew the 5.7 came with headers but even 4.0 tundras get em? Share the love? Wait is the throttle body facing the opposite way in that pic?

 

Strange, in Canada it's not an option. That's a good piece of information to know. That's not the same engine though I think it's the same block. I believe that's the engine out of the FJ. Like I said though, having the exact same engine in both two trucks is not a direction I've been told Ford would head in. You never know though. That's all this form is, speculation. Except for Chris of course lol.

 

2. There are several vehicles that share powertrain. The same trans that is in an older Volvo XC90 is in our truck. My buddy and I looked and verified, he had the Volvo. All I'm saying is this.... regardless of it's a 2.7L, I was using that as an example, every manfacturer probably will make their own version of the 2.7. Besides, who the shit is going to buy a mid size when you can get the same or better mpg in a full? Analysts say the midsize market is shrinking, due to the full size improving quickly.

3. Gearing is not the whole picture. When you add extra gears in a trans, it allows the motor to run at lower rpm's/more efficiently. If it didn't make a difference, auto manufacturers wouldn't pump money into R&D. Toyota makes reliable DRIVETRAINS. Look at the 1st gen tacomas. Basic, reliable rust buckets. Just sayin. The only reason you are driving a Tacoma that is not more efficient is because Toyota's competition in the midsize market was a bunch of turds. They were already on top, and now that there is new advanced competition, now it's nose to the grindstone time. I love my truck, it's the perfect size for me and reliable. But where I have the problem is that these trucks could have been so much better, especially since there hasn't been a redesign in 10 YEARS. Other manufacturers redesign, and implement more features/performance more often. If the midsize class doesn't want to be wiped out, R&D needs to be done. Advancements just don't happen when you "follow" like Toyota. If they came out with some ridiculous Tacomas with great gas mileage and other features, they would maintain the best selling midsize truck and have the other manufacturers in a panic.

So there, lol

 

My thoughts exactly. I hated how it look from the bed swooping downward and it's fwd bias full time awd. I didn't mind the full independent suspension or the uni-body setup. I just wish Honda took truck owners more seriously when it comes to what they want and need.

 

Isn't the full independent suspension not suitable for towing and hauling?

 

Why do you keep going back and forth on your argument . One moment you're saying Toyota should bring up a new mid size, in the next breath you agree that midsized trucks are dying. You are a funny man good sir.

 

If they don't bring up a new midsize they will be dead.
And... I'm done, lol

 

Thanks I did not know that..

 

The IS setup is very nice for ride quality, certainly. Our pilot is in a completely different league comfort wise and would still be my pick for long road trips where hauling is not a concern.

The unibody point is a good question... Im not an expert and just think of a body on frame as more rugged/durable in a truck application. But I guess unibodies could be/are made just as strong now?

Not sure. The load rating of the pilot is actually similar if not a bit more than my DCSB, though I doubt Ive ever been that close to the max. They also offer a dealer installed factory tow package with hitch and trans cooler for it, but I dont have it.

 

Nothing gets by that guy!

 

It has to have some kind of disadvantage right? Other wise all the trucks would have it.

 

That doesn't matter around here. It is the Toyota stamped on front that matters to a lot of buyers, of course not everyone. The pressure is worse in the smaller town rural areas.

 

If cities and states would quit buying these Ford and Chevy's and start using good sense and buy Toyota then our taxpayers would get a big break. I think that's the only reason the make Ford and Chevy's anyway. Ever seen a big city with four door taco's

 

Wish I could share your trust, but after 5 previous Toyota trucks with very little problems and now to have this one for almost 4 years, only to get caught with my window down due to a faulty switch...lost the ac clutch at 72 000 km and now got my 4x4 gone at 93 000 km. Two more guys working with me have also lost their Tacoma AC clutches. I had a 2000 2500 6.5 diesel chev and a 1998 1500 chev. Both are still running and have not had any ac or 4x4 problems.

 

You bought your chevies at the right time. All the new body 1/2 ton trucks had massive transfer case issues (2000-2006ish I think). We used to have a GM dealer right next to where I worked so we bought most of our trucks there. Out of 9 trucks we bought in 3 year period, 8 blew a transfer case within 60,000 km. Every truck has it's weak points. I'd rather burn up an A/C clutch (a few hundred bucks) and lose 4x4 to an electrical issue (look up how to fix that on here, it's a simple fix usually, something about contact pins bending over time) then have to replace major powertrain components every 60 K.

Those problems started our transistion to Ford trucks. Since we've went to F150's we've had the odd motor go at about 150,000 kms (maybe like 1 in 10 trucks on the 5.4 L, no issues with the Ecoboost yet) but otherwise the trucks have stayed solid.

 

SoCal lifeguards are using frontiers.