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05+ Official Perforated/Rusted Through Frames

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Sandman614, Oct 30, 2013.

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Is your frame perforated/rusted through

  1. Yes, It looks like swiss cheese

    26.4%
  2. Yes, but it's only a little

    73.6%
  1. Jul 30, 2014 at 9:59 AM
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    jliberatore92

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    I haven't had it inspected yet. As someone on a different thread said, I might want to wait because the holes might get worse by the time NY is covered under the frame replacement. That way I would have a better chance of qualifying (I should be fine anyway because I have 1 small hole and another big one by the drivers side cat).
    And I'm the same; truck was originally sold in VT and was there for 3 years.

    But my local dealer has 4 frames sitting outside ready to go. In Albany, NY. They are the ones posted above.
     
  2. Jul 30, 2014 at 10:17 AM
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    Looks we are in the same boat. I'm going to keep pressing them if I get shut down....btw, it's nearly been 24hrs & no call back. There is a problem & they have acknowledged it. If our vins are outside their range, then maybe they need to widen the scope of their frame rust program!!! They won't like it if someone gets killed & they refused to fix the frames.
     
  3. Jul 30, 2014 at 10:37 AM
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    both parties have a list...the VIN will show what the vehicle came with on day 1....if that is what dealers are going to be asking for I am sure there are going to be quite a few people tearing their garage apart looking for OEM components...

    what concerns me is the amount of affected used tacomas I have seen here in MA that are being sold without the LSC being done (only performed post sale) worse part is I took a look at an 05 DCLB with a frame worse than mine at a non toyota dealer and the salesman had no clue about the LCS
     
  4. Jul 30, 2014 at 11:10 AM
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    oh I hear ya man, I would hope they are only referring to the frame and sub-components..but you never know in this day in age...dealer will always look for an angle if something should happen...you damn well know the fine print will show its face at some point
     
  5. Jul 30, 2014 at 1:07 PM
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    right but consumers have A right to upgrade &/or use nomn oem parts.....I believe there was a court battle at some point. Basically says the modification must be responsible for the failure of the stock component.
     
  6. Jul 30, 2014 at 1:13 PM
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    They were referring to my 6 inch lift and cut cross member.
    If it has to be stock I'll sell it first. I'm not taking the lift off.
     
  7. Jul 30, 2014 at 1:19 PM
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    yeah the cut crossmember sucks....Id look at ANY other dealership & see if they have any tacomas with 6" lifts for sale.....that can be your bargaining power
     
  8. Jul 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM
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    I fully agree with you, but we also know Toyota will do everything they can to save a dime....there is a reason they retain the amount of lawyers they do
     
  9. Jul 30, 2014 at 3:20 PM
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    Well, I think the Deale is being paid by Toyota to change the frame according to a standard time/process/parts list. Snapping of U bolts, and replacement of other non OEM parts I think is the major issue here. They may not know what the parts/part numbers/source for anything that is required to complete the job in the time/money allotted by Toyota. In summary, they want to change the frame and not fight with non standard parts and problems. ??
     
  10. Jul 31, 2014 at 5:53 AM
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    The aftermarket parts are in better condition than the stock ones. Its not a custom home made lift. Its a bolt on kit.
     
  11. Jul 31, 2014 at 6:52 AM
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    No different then the lifts they put on them at the dealers. And with the quality of work I've had done at local dealers I don't think I'd want them to try a frame swap. Swap the frame put it on rollers and I'll do the rest.
     
  12. Jul 31, 2014 at 7:12 AM
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    Yes I understand your point. I am going to start running my construction company like a dealer. Oh wait that wall wasn't built for an aftermarket nail to hold a picture.....

    During the first gen recalls they swapped frames to a lot of modified trucks.
     
  13. Jul 31, 2014 at 8:11 AM
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    Ok, so you get a call from a customer for a warranty repair - for a wall you installed. You get there and all the furniture, rugs, curtains, custom wall paper is all there with a door cut out in the wall with custom oak detailed trim that was added AFTER your work.

    You are willing to move, store, and clean all this stuff, then pull apart the custom woodwork, wallpaper, fix the issue, buy and replace anything (including items you did not provide or install - wallpaper, custom trim, door, wall fixtures, etc.) that are needed to bring it back to the condition after the customer made and paid to have the changes made to your work - AFTER you did your work???

    I need a contractor like you for some repairs I need on my property ....
     
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    A grand total of 4 parts and a handful of bolts were added to the total of things.
    And actually yes but a wall is a poor excuse. I'll give a better example. A company put a sunroof on a home. Did so poorly, I came out redid the existing roof, connected the sun roof to the building properly and replaced the kitchen walls and floors the sunroom destroyed. Their company due to poor work and knowledge paid for it all.

    Another is a deck built from pressure treated that didn't last six years. Ripped out and replaced including railing and other things that had been added later. Paid for by the lumber company because their product failed. Maybe the difference is I like and fight for my customers.
     
  15. Jul 31, 2014 at 8:54 AM
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    To make it clear if the failure was in my wall you damn right I'm returning it to how they had it.
     
  16. Jul 31, 2014 at 8:55 AM
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    A good contractor... Yes they would. Sorry you're using shitty contractors lol

    I used to work in finance and had 5 different construction company owners or just small contractors as clients and ALL of them would have done exactly as Joshua said. If your contractor wont, then you have a shit contractor.
     
  17. Jul 31, 2014 at 8:59 AM
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    and if Toyota won't....well they are a shit dealer
     
  18. Jul 31, 2014 at 9:05 AM
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    Ok, I relent.

    You should open a Toyota Dealership... I'd sure buy from you :D
     
  19. Jul 31, 2014 at 9:15 AM
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    My customers call me for everything. My next truck and cars will not be a Toyota as of this moment. That can still change with how they handle it. I'm very tired of the inability of companies to accept fault for things. When the dealer informed me that my cut cross member probably caused the rust, they lost me as a customer because thank you internet I'm not falling for their roundabout bs of mine being the only rusted Tacoma in the world.
     
  20. Jul 31, 2014 at 12:09 PM
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    Thats not that big of a deal. 5 year old truck will have some rust on the frame. My concern are these trucks with holes, not trucks with some visible surface rust. Its just nit picking at that point.
     

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