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45acp’s DIVORCED build!

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by 45acp, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Aug 4, 2014 at 11:53 AM
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    45acp

    45acp [OP] Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    Thanks man, it's slowly getting better.

    Mocking up for rear shocks today. 4 inches of shaft showing at ride height. Fully flexed out equates to roughly 20" at the wheels. Looks like I'm gonna have to weld in some more tubing so the bump stops can reach the axle haha :anonymous:

    [​IMG]P1290696 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr

    [​IMG]P1290699 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr
     
  2. Aug 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM
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    45acp [OP] Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    And before anyone says anything- yes I know, "no more cutting!" ([​IMG])

    ...but I'm starting to wonder if I should cut off the axle end shock mounts and put the shock on the opposite (inside) side of the tubing/bed area/whatever. Moar flex? :notsure:
     
  3. Aug 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM
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    45acp [OP] Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    :laugh:

    I was expecting Madjik, but you beat him to it.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2014 at 2:03 PM
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    Why only 4"? You're definitely going to want about half the shock shaft worth of uptravel to race. Seems like the sky is the limit for where the upper mount can go?
     
  5. Aug 4, 2014 at 2:33 PM
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    45acp [OP] Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    Yeah, I intentionally made the bed area somewhat of a blank slate to maximize my shock mounting options.

    Talking with Ben @ Filthy Motorsports, he suggested 4" of shaft showing at ride height. So that's what the front shocks are valved for. I mocked up the rears assuming they would also be set to 4" at ride height, but they could be tucked another 2" if I want. I was just about to update the build on pirate and ask about that. :eek:
     
  6. Aug 4, 2014 at 2:44 PM
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    4" of chrome showing on the front of a trail rig (not race truck) would be fine but never 4" on the rear. What length shocks do you have out back? 16s? I would try to double that and shoot for 8" of up, 6" minimum.
     
  7. Aug 4, 2014 at 2:56 PM
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    45acp [OP] Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    I had a feeling that was the case. I'm going with 14"s in the rear too, so the max I could get is 6" up, 8" down.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM
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    You could move them slightly more inboard. I'd only move them in on the inside of the tube frame just. Too far in and they will loose their dampening.

    But I think where they are at is good for crawling and also go fast.

    Would be checking if they clear the tires though with coils on...
     
  9. Aug 4, 2014 at 3:30 PM
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    Only 14s out back?!

    Wtf


    You will want the rear to out perform the front in go fast situations..like racing through the whoops in the fast section.

    I'd want 16s or 18s and more up travel too.


    But really boils down to ultimate use of the truck
     
  10. Aug 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM
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    14"s all around for mod class. :eek:

    I don't think you want it to necessarily out perform the front, but even things out as much as possible. Hence the reason I've been trying to move a lot of the weight towards the rear. Most of the videos I see where the truck goes ass-over-teakettle is likely because there's either too much weight in the front, shocks unload too fast in the rear, or probably a combination of both.
     
  11. Aug 4, 2014 at 4:21 PM
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    Or split it in half, 7 and 7. A lot of competitive KOH rigs have half chrome showing at ride height. Having uptravel is nice and I only have 5.5" of chrome showing up front.
     
  12. Aug 4, 2014 at 5:33 PM
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    Yeah, I'll try to stuff the axle as far up as possible. I just cut 4" off the lower links, so I'm gonna move the upper mounts anyway. Truck now looks like it belongs at ~120".
     
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    I'm just going off my lt knowledge from all the reading I have done. So..not gonna say I know wtf I'm talking about :p

    But I know in general that is a rule of thumb for the lt guys. A planted ass end is always better.

    I would go for more up travel either way. Even if it's just 5-6" chrome
     
  14. Aug 4, 2014 at 8:58 PM
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    I can say if you have 4" of uptravel front and rear, you won't get to a speed fast enough to notice which end out performs the other LOL
     
  15. Aug 4, 2014 at 9:08 PM
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    Any thoughts on moving the shocks to the inside of the frame/toobing?
     
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    More pics of where the upper mounts will/could end up!
     
  17. Aug 4, 2014 at 9:30 PM
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  18. Aug 4, 2014 at 9:51 PM
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    45acp [OP] Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    This is one of the things I didn't add to the equation earlier on. At full flex, the caliper bracket comes too close to the spring retainer plate.

    [​IMG]DSC09828 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr

    Where it's sitting now. With the 4" up travel :)anon:) and with the wheelbase set to approximately 120".

    [​IMG]DSC09829 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr

    [​IMG]DSC09830 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr

    Basically I'm thinking of moving it quite literally on the opposite side of the tubing

    [​IMG]DSC09831 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr

    [​IMG]DSC09832 by wyo_taco45, on Flickr
     
  19. Aug 6, 2014 at 6:49 PM
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