New Chevy Colorado mega-thread

Yes I like Toyota, but fanboy, really? They don't offer everything I don't just walk around and say Toyota is better than everything.

The false information was provided because I was on Toyota's website and when you click on the Tundra they have a compare feature and I didn't scroll threw every single model of the different truck to see which one has the highest towing. I just picked the biggest engine and cab size with 4wd. I'm so sorry that it made everyone on here feel like I'm on here to tell you fake stuff.

If it makes you all happy I will spend my whole day next time and tell you every thing you want to know on the other trucks and try to become an expert so I can prove you all wrong when you guys don't research enough.

And my dad doesn't have a Tundra and never has. He actually has a f-250 power stroke. Its a workhorse especially after he removed the smog crap and added a tuner.

 

Anyone who tows a true goose neck trailer will always buy a full ton. There's the market. Acutally Ford keeps making bigger trucks. I think you can actually get a F450 with a box still if you want to tow a couple of Front Wheel Assist tractors behind you or something silly heavy like that. Making bigger capacity half tons won't threaten the large trailer truck market. Just because an F150 is rated for 11 K lbs doesn't mean I'd ever try something that heavy. I'd buy a 3/4 ton and give myself tons of room weight wise for toys and people that may be coming along for the ride too.

If the F150 gets stronger, or the Ram 1500/Silverado 1500, then the Heavy Duties will get an upgrade too. The Heavy Duties will always be a more stable tow platform because they sacrifice ride comfort and some efficiency for stability and power. It's not really like the Porsche argument but I can see what you mean. Scroll a few pages back, I made a similar arguement for why the Ranger is not coming back to North America any time soon .The only place I think they fear crossing the size lines is with mid sized trucks, because full sized 1/2 tons are big money makers for the big 3. The margins on Heavy Duties are similar to the 1/2 tons when optioned out.

Sorry I got you and Chopper mixed up . See we all make mistakes, I was reading his story about the Tundra being more truck the the F-250. You were both suggesting the Tundra is tuned towards being a tough work truck, and I disagree as someone who actually is involved with buying a lot of work trucks.

You quickly skimmed some data and threw it out on this forum. It happens to everyone. It's pretty simple to just pull the dealership brouchers for each truck and check the back pages for the tow ratings. That's the easiest way to see all the configurations and there weight limits. If you're ever trying to compare apples to apples there's a good way to do it for future reference. It takes a few minutes in total.

If you don't want people responding to incorrect information with a bit of jam, simply don't act like you're surprised someone knows more about the topic. That's what open forums like this are for, learning and discussion . We aren't here to bag on one another although that happens .

BTW what was the topic jks.

 

Which manufacturer is leading the pack in any particular area is irrelevant, just rest easy knowing that it was Toyota Motor Corp. & the Tacoma that set the bar to a level overall that made the other auto/truck manufacturers get off their ass's & step up their game.....

 

2012-up Taco owners do, were not exempt from this. Owners on the forum, myself included have already had some issues with this. Its a crappy design and really sucks for the tundra drivers as it places the truck in limp mode when it throws the fault.

For the Colorado-Tacoma debate, yes The Colorado is a new platform but they are JUST NOW bringing to the table things that the Tacoma has had since 2005. Yes there is new technology wrapped up in that package but almost all new platforms get that stuff now a days as the 3rd gen Tacoma probably will to. Why should Toyota be in a rush to get the 3rd gen out when people are still buying there old platform and paying a good premium for it. Although it does seem like they put the Tacoma aside for the Tundra refresh which IMO shouldn't of happened. The Tundra is a joke in the full-size market, its just not competitive, It makes good power and that's about it. As stated above its just for the Toyota fans, Toyota has been trying to get there full-size truck right for a long time and just cannot seem to get the recipe correct.

 

Bringing back this thread to life: Are these at the Chevy dealer yet?

 

Probably couldn't get it to pass US emissions.

 

Why can't we just use the 2015 Thread just a few spots below this thread?

They're not at dealers yet. Mid to late September, so very very soon. They've already announced pricing.

 

Diesel is coming for 2016MY

 

Is it? Sweet.
Of course, it will probably be a less powerful version than what the rest of the world gets because of emissions restrictions. If the Aussie version makes 196HP and 369 lb/ft, we'll probably get one that makes 175hp and 330 lb/ft, haha!

 

here is the thread.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/340336-next-gen-mule-spy-shots.html

 

If Toyota don't get their rear in gear and give us a new redesigned Tacoma soon one of these will be in my driveway.
Check out the diesel torque.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/gm-confirms-horsepower-towing-colorado-and-canyon-pickups

 

Lets just say this much, Toyota will do fine. Why I say that is because GM has not had their "finger" on the pulse of what America wants for over 20+ years now. I have endured so much disappointment with the decisions of how to do what and for who for so friggin' long that its really pathetic.

 

Yeah sorry guys I was about to step in and say that I was the one who claimed that my dad drove the Tundra and said it hauled well.

And by the way, I wasn't the one pushing for Tundra being the best... But I must disagree where you say it is not built towards being a heavy duty work truck. Just because it doesn't out-haul another truck (Ford or whatever has been mentioned) doesn't mean the Tundra is not designed as a work truck. What is it then? A compact pickup?

 

I think the problem is that everybody's version of a "work truck" is different.

 

From what your saying chopper, a 1/2 ton truck is automatically a work truck. I'll be honest, as a business with Toyota's current pricing and options I could never justify buying a Tundra as a work vehicle. It's overpriced, underwhelming, and grossly inefficient when it's equipped with the 5.7 L compared to it's competition with similar power numbers. The Tundra has a lot of features but most of them that would be helpful to businesses only come at the highest trim levels. Ford, Dodge, and GM have the pricing setup so that larger engines, higher payloads, trailer equipment (including built in brake controllers), and other good business options can be equipped on even the base model vehicles. This results is huge savings to the bottom line to buy domestic over Toyota for 1/2 tons. Also, due to the way depreciation works, you want a vehicle to lose value fairly quickly and in line with your depreciation schedule so you can maximise your tax benefit. If the truck doesn't lose much value you could leave your business vunerable to undervalued asset loses. For most companies they'd need to keep Tundra's around well past there service life to maximize there money back on depreciation. Not to mention old trucks do not reflect well to customers on a work site or in a fleet. Also, it almost goes without saying, old trucks that have been worked hard have a way of losing things over time no matter who made it.

That being said I'm sure a lot of small independent operations, where the truck see's a split between work and play, might see the value in the Tundra. Especially if they're a service based business where the truck may stick around for 7-10 years. The only problem, again, is that at fleet/discount pricing you could have a better equipped truck from any other manufacturer for a far lower price.

Anyways, back to topic . Has anyone seen any towing/payload numbers for the diesel Colorado yet?

 

I'm not arguing that it is the best, honestly like you said they cost too much and are bad on gas. I wouldn't want one until they can figure out what they're doing and get some numbers up.

And I do believe someone posted a link to the Colorado's numbers
Edit: Here it is

"Towing weight in the Canyon and Colorado is rated at 7,000 pounds when properly equipped. The Frontier can pull 6,300 pounds, while the Tacoma is rated at 6,500 pounds."

 

He was curious about the numbers on the diesel.

 

The 4.0 in the nissan still has more torque than that new v6 in the Colorado and canyon. Why would they put a engine in a truck that makes more HP and way less torque??

 

General Mistake

 

Oh ya, that's why.