New Chevy Colorado mega-thread

I was thinking the same. The 4.7 doesnt make any more hp than the 4.0 (4runner version anyway, so it would be the same tune respectively im sure for the taco) and its a v8 so its gonna weigh a bit more (i realize its belt not chain but still gotta be heavier) weight to power ratio is gonna be close, too close to justify. Just put a blower on and crank out the same numbers as the 4.6 even. Givin that would be a $4000 option if offered.

 

From post above......

"I can't think of ANY truck or car that went so long without a significant change in it other than the Tacoma"

The Volkswagen beetle went what 40 years? maybe longer counting the Mexico only production in the later years.

 

Ford Ranger went 19 years.
C3 Vette - 14 years
C4 Vette -12 years

I'm sure I could dig up some more.

 

304 hp and 334 tq with trd s/c, and i would imagine would be the same price as a v8 option with more horses and tq. add the 2.85 pully and pass the newer improved 4.6 numbers.

 

The 4.7 doesnt make any more power than the 4.0L? The 4.7L 4runners have higher tow ratings and are faster than the 4.0Ls. My brothers 2004 AC Tundra V8 has smoked many a 2nd gen Tacoma from stop lights. And I regularly towed 10k and hung in 5th in my 05 DC Tundra, you couldnt do that if you had the 4.0L in the exact same body. The 4.0L clearly falls in line behind the 4.7L.

 

agree to disagree with pretty much everything in that statement

 

Yeah, I agree about the displacement statement but after weight and the additional mass of the additional parts in a V8 over a V6, I'd have to agree that I'd rather have the S/C 4.0L over a 4.7 L motor in the Tacoma. When talking about displacement, sure I'd buy a 5.7 L as being a huge jump over the 4.0 L, but for our little trucks all you need is the blower.

I could say the same thing about the S/C 4.0 L that you said about the 4.7 L. Bolt on a new pulley, new fuel pump, new intake, new exhaust, and do a little easy tuning and I'll fly past any 4.7 L 4Runner short of one that's been race built or has a turbo. That turbo will cost far more than my S/C if done right.

The 4.7 L wouldn't do anything that little bit of boost doesn't already do. The blower should of been a stock option on the TRD Tacoma's. If they had of installed them on even 20% of the trucks I bet the option could of cost as little as $2.5K

In my observations it's only 40+ y/o guys that can't understand why the Ecoboost engines and similar designs will be the way of the future. They still remember the big blocks there daddies have and can't get over the fact that low displacement motors with boost will be replacing V8 motors. V8's in 1/2 tons, especially the antiquated motor in the "new" Tundra, are a thing of the past.

 

Really? What about the formula 1 cars making 600 HP from a 1.6L v6 or those rally cross cars that have 0-60 times under 2 seconds from a 2.0l 4cy that also makes 600 HP.

There is a lot of replacement for displacement. There isn't much point anymore to make huge v8 when we can get the same amount of power from a smaller displacement and even less cylinders with better efficiency.

 

The other side of the forced induction argument is increased cost and complexity which in turn create a higher cost of ownership. There's no way around that, no matter how many Fords you blow up trying to finish the Baja 1000. I stick with the 4.6L as a better option. Chain driven, more powerful than either the 4.7 or the 4.0 and it doesn't need forced induction to be a fine motor.

 

Very good point.

 

Guess we should go back to carburetors and leaded gas then. Seriously, while I agree the Ecoboost is not 100% there yet, motors like it and turbo diesels will be the future from an efficiency standpoint. Lighter, faster, stronger, and one day reliable enough to silence the critics. Just like 99 percent of technology changes there's going to be growing pains.

 

Defenately SOHC FTW. carbs, distributers, throttle cable. Much better. Just saying my dads 77 f250 with a 351 has 110 more cubic inches than my 4.0 but 80 hp less. Displacement is most definitely not everything. Even the new silverado non tow pkg comes with a 3.08 rearend, so morr displacement and "more technologically advanced" motor but wont out preform smaller motors because of the tall gears.

 

Isnt the light truck market hurting pretty bad? I mean for not much more you can get a full size. I loved my Tacoma, but now with a SUV only about once every few months do I need a truck and its usually for just a quick trip. I don't think I could go back to a truck.

 

More sightings of the new Colorado on public streets, looks good in black. Front fascia is low, of course for mpg's but would have to be removed for any wheeling.

 

That Z71 looks agressive. I kind of like it. Too bad that whole bumper probably has to come off to get good clearance like you said.

 

I didn't realize my comment would start so much of an engine discussion. I was just saying I wouldn't mind the 3.6 Pentastar in a Jeep truck if they ever resurrected the Commanche (Brute)

I'm really liking the look of the new GMC truck... I think if I ever get tired of this Tacoma that's the one I'll be looking at. I really don't have a need for it but if I ever need a full 4-door instead of an Access Cab I think their 4-door with a diesel will be in my future if Toyota doesn't figure out its shit and get a diesel together.

 

Or better yet, steam engines! I agree with you, Sterdog -- today's (and tomorrow's) higher-tech engines are and will likely prove to be just as reliable as anything else bought in the last 20 years. I had a 2001 Audi A4 with a 5-valve per cylinder turbo engine that went 100,000 miles without a hiccup. And that was chipped, too.

 

I didn't realize my comment would start so much of an engine discussion. I was just saying I wouldn't mind the 3.6 Pentastar in a Jeep truck if they ever resurrected the Commanche (Brute)

I'm really liking the look of the new GMC truck... I think if I ever get tired of this Tacoma that's the one I'll be looking at. I really don't have a need for it but if I ever need a full 4-door instead of an Access Cab I think their 4-door with a diesel will be in my future if Toyota doesn't figure out its shit and get a diesel together by then.

 

I think any potential Tacoma buyer should drive a Frontier and a Colorado. While most will still go with the tacoma, for now, it's never a bad idea to see what else is out there.

 

Don't hate on steam. Steam runs the world, do you know how nuclear or coal power plants work?