Arbitration didn't go well..........

Please let me re-phrase ...

"Just why are you even here at TW ?? Usually when I don't like something I usually just move on and not keep poking sticks , A ?"

 

It's actually spelt, eh. Nice try at the personal touch though. Let's stick to the thread topic though before someone locks this thread up on us.

Hopefully OP can get a tacoma gear head nearby or this magic man to look at his truck. Something tells me the vibration issue is not a cheap fix or toyota would probably be going at this from a different angle.

 

Agreed.

Back to Topic ......

OP. I did post elsewhere in another thread, a reference to persons/posts with vibration problems and I thought that it might be more of a sympatric vibration at certain wheel speeds/ RPM.

The on thing I thing should bet tried is 1.) Lowering / raising tire pressure to see if that helps (it will at least give a clue to the problem. 2.) try loading up the bed with a good load and see if the vibs change. - Eh?

( I thought if I spelled it eh then not many of us dumb Americans would get it ..)


and now the post with a New England Accent


OP. I did post elsewheae in anothea thaead, a efeaence to peasons/posts with vibaation paoblems and I thought that it might be moae of a sympataic vibaation at ceatain wheel speeds/ APM.

The one thing I thing should bet taied is 1.) Loweaing / aaising tiae paessuae to see if that helps (it will at least give a clue to the paoblem. 2.) tay loading up the bed with a good load and see if the vibs change. - Eh?

 

That was really good!

 

High speed vibration wasn't one of the problems I found.. if you "google" known issues with XXXX you will probably end not buying a damn thing.

 

No, not a troll.. just a person who dropped a large (to me) amount of money on a vehicle with a vibration issue that the manufacturer chooses to blow off as normal. I am meeting with man who specialized in suspensions for many years, we'll see what happens.

One more little tidbit. The service manager at Toyota in Franklin, TN. made a statement after I asked about a 1 piece drive shaft, it went something like this.. "do you think you'll be able to fix this in your driveway when Toyota engineers, with all their resources have yet to find a fix for this vibration?"

 

Didn't go down a path too fast.. there are/were only 2 new compact, sorry.. midsize trucks available on the market when we were shopping. I did research any known issues, most if not all that I ran across were related to the 4X4 models. The low speed shudder was the major one. I never ran across a post/thread related to high speed vibration, If I had.. well.. coulda, shoulda, woulda.. It really doesn't mean shit at this point.

It's been another learning experience, with products, dealers and manufacturers as well as peoples behavior in general.. enjoy your popcorn

 

Thanks. Sorry I must of misread your comment a few pages ago that your wife wanted a decision and you made one on the spot rather than thinking it over. Like I've said good luck, I'm not the only guy following your story and hoping you find out what's the source of the issue since it seems to be happening to more than just a few new tacos out there.

 

I'm not trying to be an ass about the whole thing, though it may seem like it. We both agreed, after the fact.. that a second test drive might have reveled the vibration at highway speeds. I did note that the sales person directed us on where to go and it just so happened that we never exceeded 70 mph.

If we had insisted on a more lengthy test drive, or a second test drive increasing the drive time and extending the duration of highway miles that were driven and the vibration would have shown it's ugly face, the sales person and dealer would have brushed it off as "the tires need to be balanced, bring it back next week" line of BS. And since I had found nothing related to high speed, or vibration at highway speed on any forums/searches.. I would have trusted them

Since I have only purchased a handful of new vehicles and the experience has always been positive, for some reason I thought Toyota would be at least or even better than KIA, Mitsu Dodge, etc. As it turns out, it's been just the opposite.

 

A bad dealer equals a bad experience every time. Like you said though, it's too late to walk away now. Experience often hurts. I hate bad dealers. In the city I live 30 minutes out of mitsu just forced an owner to sell because his dealership had such a shitty rep. If you want to ever here my story about them I'll PM you. I wish nothing more than the same result towards your toyota dealer .

 

Could be looking in the wrong place...

Motor mounts, torque converter, transmission all are suspect, even the harmonic balancer on front of engine....I am sure you had all mounts checked...

Going to be interesting what comes out of all this....

 

Ok, so I still don't understand. Not at all.

Why don't you take your brand new under warranty truck to a real ethical mechanic and get it fixed? Put a copy of the mechanic's bill and his letter saying what he fixed into a folder.

Put all that documentation from Toyota, saying they couldn't fix it, into a folder. Put a copy of your warranty into a folder.

Submit copies of it to Toyota for reimbursement? Failing that, take it to small claims court?

Seriously? Why this long rambling thread?

Why are you dicking around with a new truck and potential complicating an easily diagnosed vibration issue to the point where Toyota could claim that YOU caused it, or complicated it, and deny it, etc, etc?

That's why I think this whole thread is either a troll or that something's missing?

Doesn't make sense.

 

Hmmm.. now that sounds like troll talk to me. ^^

I have had it to a several techs (including Toyota) ,point to the components that were thought to be causing the problem were repaired/replaced. This had zero effect eliminating or reducing the vibration. I have found countless threads people have posted about people trying to chase down intermittent high speed vibration.. it's more complicated, time consuming and expensive than you think

As far has throwing parts at it and racking up even more expense in the hopes of eliminating the problem AND having Toyota cover the cost, not gonna happen. And of course Toyota has denied there is an issue, so they will NOT replace any components or reimburse me for said repair and probably deny any future warranty claims on the truck for the same reason.


My suggestion to you, since you seems to be struggling with the topic on this thread and looking for simple things that "make sense to you".. go read short threads that talk about unicorns, pixie dust or maybe refer to easy DIY mods to your truck with no tools, no garage just a whole lotta hot air.

Bon Appétit

 

Hey Ken just thought about this after I had my gear install done in the mustang I had a crazy vibration. (But also howl) that resulted from the mech not setting the backlash right on my gears. A new set of drop 4:10 ' s and problem gone. Has anyone checked inside the rear diff to eliminate any issues in there?I'd like to say you'd hear a noise but I haven't been in the rear of the tacoma.... yet

 

Just FYI. My 2012 had the rear end whine. They swapped out the differential gear set. I do believe there is a TSB out - not sure of the years covered.

 

I am bringing my truck in tomorrow for it's scheduled 20k maintenance. If it doesn't go as planned I am fully prepared to lawyer the f*ck up and go to town on their ass

 

Hey Adam, no howling from the diff. I had a couple gopros pointed that direction and didn't detect anything other than road noise and moving parts..

I had a suspension specialist ride along with me yesterday, he felt the vibration start at around 45mph, get really noticeable at 60mph and really bad at 80mph +. He thinks the vibe is originating from the rear of the truck. He started with a basic test, lift the rear axle, let the truck idle in drive and check for run out. Well, the left rear tire was out of round by at least 1/4". So before we can go any further, had to mount some tires.

I had friend of mine at Firestone install a set of duelers (mounted on the 17" wheels I bought used) He drove it before and after.. said it vibrated so bad he got motion sickness, not kidding. They also check all steering, suspension and motor/trans mounts, and checked the alignment. Yes, tires were road force balanced.

The tires had no effect. Will return to the other guy next week for further diagnoses. This weekend I'm going to pull out a new tool I picked up, a dial indicator. Figured I'd pull the wheels and measure run out on the drums, axles and rotors.

 

Cool, I'll double check it and search the tsb list.. thanks

 

What's up with it?