Any fellow survivalists utilize their truck?

I must have about $200 worth right here then!

 

Oh, Im not worried about my fire starting skills. I can start a fire better than Chris1x1 for what its worth. Mine are just more controlled.

Thanks for the input though guys. I'll have to play around with it.

 

Nah, thats more like over 1k. The company uses a small 4 inch round tin. Not packed tight or anything,

 

Geeze! That's a lot of dust!! I have a sander that has a bag that makes some good stuff too. But geeze not near that much

 

Cutting dado joints for a storage system will do that.

 

I'm looking for a good way to put my 1911 in the box between the seats. I don't want to use one of the safes. I just want to be able to tuck it nicely against the driver side of the storage area and to stand up two mags vertically so I have fast access. Have any of you tried to do something like this?

Just laying it down takes up the entire box and makes all the space in there useless. If you can't access it quick then you are defeating the point.

However, if there was some kind of mount to put it against the inside wall, this would be almost perfect. There are 4 clips/mounts to hold something but I'm not sure what they are for, on the passenger side (see blue highlight).

 

yeah just buy a serpa off ebay for like 30$ and screw it to the inside of the console

 

or do the roto circle mount so you can pop it outta your console and right onto your hip

 

Those holes/tabs in the center console are for the $13 mesh net that Toyota used to provide with 2nd gens but now doesn't. You can see it in the pics below.

This is how I carry my Sig P229.





Maxpedition CCW Holster with the "Industrial Strength" Velcro you get in the 15' roll at Lowe's. It's been on there for two years and has survived all the blistering hot days here in Florida. My truck is always outside - never covered.

I realize the P229 is a smaller form-factor than your 1911, but this CCW holster is adjustable. I've seen them used to hang AR15s, Mossberg 590 A1s, etc.

Good luck!

Fink

 

I'm not a fan of taking my sidearm off of me when I get into a vehicle for numerous reasons. One reason is in an emergency situation if I have to leave the vehicle I may not have an opportunity to grab it first. The simple fact is that in an emergency situation your cell phone is more likely to save your life than your firearm so on my way out I grab my cell phone out of the dash-mounted holder unless it's still in my pocket. Another reason is that you're most likely thinking you'll grab it even if it isn't an emergency situation and you think you may need it. Well, much like the rest of life, if you could accurately predict when you might need it you likely wouldn't be there in the first place. Say you see someone stranded on the side of the road and top to help. Looks innocent enough so you don't even think to grab your handgun. Once you're 20' from your truck you realize you needed it and it's too late. Could be the family has set up an elaborate scam to mug people or perhaps someone unseen comes along while you're helping to change a wheel with designs on mugging or otherwise hurting you and them. Or you can combine the two scenarios and say that you see someone on the side of the road that's in need of emergency assistance so you quickly evac your truck to help and that's when you realize a firearm is necessary but you're already out of your truck. Say a child flags you down on the side of the road screaming for help. You quickly pull off the side, hop out and go running to their aid only to find as you round the corner that a group of four of five guys is raping the kids mom. The point is it may be uncomfortable but if you can think of even one scenario where you might need it it's best to have it. I just came up with a few and remember it's the scenario we can't imagine we're all preparing for as that will be most likely what happens. I see regularly where people have a setup to take off their handgun when they get into a vehicle and I just don't get it. Personally, I have my gun on me until I go to bed at night and before I get up in the morning and even then there's on or seven nearby anyway. I don't live in a shady area nor do I go looking for trouble but Murphy's law is the second you're not prepared is when trouble finds you. I know some will call me paranoid but a healthy dose of justified paranoia is why we all carry in the first place.

I realize there are instances when you HAVE to leave your gun in the vehicle but that's pretty rare.

 

Good lord, man. You are what I call a "chronic disasturbator".

I have nothing against guns (i actually went shooting last week), but I dunno if its a good thing when your sense of personal security is entirely dependent on having that gun on your hip.

 

Nice assumption. You don't know me personally so how 'bout we keep the personal assumptions out of a discussion about where you keep your firearm least we head down a path of personal attacks that are unwarranted. Saying 'I shot a gun once' doesn't make your statement any more or less valid for the record.

 

It at least separates me from the rabid 'guns-are-evil' group.

And you are right, they were possibly misplaced assumptions. Maybe you don't chronically disasturbate... but you are disasturbating in this thread. Too much disasturbation can encourage...rash... behavior.

 

It doesn't. In fact most anti-gun people who pick a debate with me start off with some form of how they used to shoot guns or how they grew up with them and then in the same breath start spewing anti-gun vitriol that has zero basis in reality. So forgive me if I feel like you fit that category more than the other because so far that's the corner your painting yourself into.

While I think your word 'disasturbate' is whimsical I also feel as though it's just hyperbole to try to make me seem like a paranoid schizophrenic to paint me into a corner. This couldn't be further from the truth if you actually knew me, which you don't so you're forgiven for your assumptions. I'm quite calm and collected in RL since I rarely have much to worry about since I have planned for 99% of scenarios. I'm not 'disasturbating' as you call it but am instead giving examples as to why I don't think removing your firearm from your person is a good idea. Just like if you were my wife wanting to carry her gun in her purse I would give her reasons as to why I didn't think this is a wise idea over having it on your persons somewhere. It's called helping someone to see something from another standpoint they maybe didn't consider. It's how lots of people learn. I have no rashes.

 

Its perfectly fine to carry a gun for self-defense, I just don't know why its necessary or useful to hypothesize these horrible and gruesome situations to justify it. It just seems like an irrational appeal to emotion/fear.

There's a difference between saying "anything could happen, be prepared!" and "always have your gun on hand in case you come across a staged mugging or see a child watching helplessly as her mother is gangraped!"

I wish I could say the same about having no rashes... skin problems

Genuinely sorry if I crossed the line... it just seemed, extreme. I didn't mean it to sound as assholish as it did

 

So you agree that carrying a gun for self defense is wise but then you would choose to disparage me for taking steps to mentally prepare myself in the event I have to use it? Seems foolish to me.

You claim it's irrational appeal but I assure you, those scenarios & much worse happen daily all across the nation in any neighborhood or area you can imagine. Violence knows now race, color, religion or creed and to assume your safe from it ANYWHERE is what's irrational since it's not derived from any fact based reality. Because you convince yourself it can't happen to you and put the blinders on to any possibility doesn't make it so.

 

I never said it couldn't happen, but I would assume that statistically, you are comparably likely to be struck by lightning as you are to stumble across a child watching as her mother is gangraped in a non-populated/wilderness area. No one goes around trying to protect against being struck by lightning. (maybe they do? ... i don't know any)

edit: you said you don't frequent bad neighborhoods so I figured this hypothetical situation you were proposing was not in one of those bad neighborhoods

 

You did a ninja edit so I'll address the remainder of your post in a new post to try to not confuse things further.

You can say "anything can happen, be prepared" but if you never take pause to actually try to think of the scenarios in which you might have to present your firearm you're setting yourself up for failure and are likely more of a danger owning a firearm with your head stuck in the ground. Part of every conceal carry class is getting those who are considering carrying a firearm MENTALLY prepared for the possibility of having to actually use the thing. When you carry a firearm it changes your mindset and your whole outlook on every situation you put yourself in. A weird maturing occurs out of necessity. I'm a big fella chalk full of testosterone who's never lost a fight so I was also not the first to back down from conflict and had my share of road rage incidents over the years. Once I got my permit and started carrying it was like a light switch flipped. An instant change occurred and strangely it was to the opposite that most anti-gun people think. They think that if you have a gun you are more likely to not back down and look for trouble. When I hear this I usually laugh audibly (I believe the kids call it "lol" these days?) because I know they have never carried a firearm or they would know different. The problem is that those who also have never carried believe BS like this and it becomes a 'fact' even though it couldn't be further from the truth. I digress. The fact that I run through scenarios in my mind daily is what I feel helps prepare me in the even that something horrible happens. I sit with my back to the wall facing the door. I know where exists are. I do a quick snapshot of everyone in the room and where they're faced and what they could be capable of based on baggy clothing, larger bags, items to disguise anything identifiable, etc. This all sounds weird to someone who doesn't carry and likely sounds like it consumes your entire day but it really doesn't. When I pull into a 7-Eleven I quickly address any cars or people in the parking lot. If there's dark areas I don't park there. When I exit me vehicle I look my doors and grab my cell phone and throw it into my pocket in case I need it for an emergency. When go into the 7-Eleven I account for everyone inside and account for their movements and am especially aware of where they are in relation to where my firearm or wife is. All of this happens in milliseconds. It also helps me to avoid potential bad situations that the average non-gun carrying person would blindly walk into because... nothing is going to happen to them, right?

You should get that looked at. Prescription creams have come a long ways in the last decade or two I hear.

I didn't see you as an asshole as I felt your posts came across genuine and may have come from a place of ignorance. Not to say that you are personally ignorant you just may be ignorant to what actually goes on around you. Don't forget that most police forces take painful steps to make sure you 'feel' safe in the town you live in. You may not hear about things happening but I assure you... they do. Don't listen to me, get in contact with your local Sheriff Dept or City Police Dept or better yet... both. Schedule some ride alongs and they will be happy to take you along to show you what actually happens around you. You will be amazed how some nights are pretty slow but inevitably on most nights there will be on situation that blows your mind that you won't hear boo about the next morning in the newspaper or on your local news. This is by design. Do that enough times and you will quickly learn that the Mayberry you live in may be a bit scarier than you were raised to believe. There are bad people out there who mean to do you harm and the police won't be anywhere close enough to help you before the bad things are already done to you. This is statistical fact.

 

Statistics are wonderful but never forget that in a nation this small even something like 99.99% means that it could happen to thousands of people. You willing to bet your life on those odds? I'm not. That scenario I painted was but one example of something that could happen. That doesn't mean it will unfold exactly like that but it's just a scenario with a few concrete examples to allow you to paint a mental picture of what actually happens daily in this county. In the woods, on the road side, in the middle of nowhere or even in your nice neighborhood. This stuff happens.

So if there's a lightning storm do you run around in a wide open space with a lightning rod in your hand stretched as high above your head (golfing for instance) as you can or do you take precautions if lightning strike is more likely?

See? You take necessary steps to protect yourself when you think that the possibility of lightning strike is possible and you don't even know it. Why is that? It's because you were raised to know that lightning is dangerous and it's doesn't matter who you are, what you look like or where you live... you can get hit by lightning.

Violent crime is the same and if you open your eyes to it you too can decrease your chances of becoming a victim and it's through steps you take that are no different than the ones you already take to avoid getting hit by lightning. Trying to convince yourself that the odds of getting hit by lightning are slim and not taking the simple steps available to you to swing those odds in your favor is just moronic.

How is this different?