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Are used Tacoma's with the TRD Supercharger worth more?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Pool Runner, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM
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    I know, sounds like a rhetorical question. But traditionally aftermarket parts or modifications don't help re-sale, and in some cases hurt it. My question is, seeing that the TRD Supercharger is an OE component, I was wondering would you get like $2-$3k more for it at trade in or selling privately for having a truck with the TRD-SC? Or is it worth the same as a truck without?

    I've never seen a 2nd gen come up for sale used with a Supercharger to compare and am curious. I'm really close to pulling the trigger (miss boost from having an EcoBoost F-150). 4.0 isn't slow by any means, but feel at normal driving, throttle tip in and mid range punch leaves a little to be desired.

    Also, is Premium required permanently after install?
     
  2. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM
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    Just limits your buyers. Not everybody wants a supercharged Tacoma, and some that do would probably be split down the middle of buying a used truck of unknown history with added horsepower and possibly more drivetrain abuse.

    Also I personally think that you won't get the money out of a supercharger on trade in, and you might get it from the right buyer through private party sale. Seems like it'd be easiest to remove it and return back to stock to trade in or sell the truck when the time comes, instead of wading through tire kickers and lowballers until the guy comes along who absolutely must have it and has the cash to make it his.
     
  3. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:04 AM
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    I've seen and driven both a 1st gen Tacoma & 3rd gen 4R with TRD SC'd 3.4's and I liked it. The 1st gen I drove once, was an S-Runner and since it was manual I remember 1st gear being useless, tons of pull in 2nd & 3rd then topping out in at the speed limiter (on accident) after that.

    Pricing on used 1st gens (used) with the TRD supercharger seemed in line with regular versions though.
     
  4. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:06 AM
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    When you purchase from the dealer, and have dealer install parts, do they hand you everything removed in a box, or keep it? Seems like there's some value in being able to hand the next owner everything to return to stock, in the even a problem developed later with the blower.
     
  5. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:08 AM
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    You own the parts, so you should get them back. You'll need to make it clear you want all parts removed returned to you. JUST IN CASE.
     
  6. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:09 AM
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    Got it thanks.
     
  7. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:09 AM
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    I had my SCer dealer installed. They returned all associated parts not used after the install. Spark plugs, injectors and intake manifold.
     
  8. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:19 AM
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    I see one downside being, it reduces the reason for buying a Tacoma in the first place (perceived reliability) I've read a few threads regarding bearings or gears inside the blower plenum that wear out at high milage. Not sure if there are any overall negative effects on the 1GR itself or the trans, ring & piñon from running years and milage of boost.
     
  9. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM
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    Does oil change interval stay the same? Or become more frequent? Seeing that you are effectively changing the engine duty originally as designed?
     
  10. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:35 AM
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    Of course. Some may not want it, but for someone who does they will pay more than one that doesn't have it.
     
  11. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM
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    Wait - didn't you JUST upgrade from the four banger?

    Man, give this guy a taste of speed and all he wants is more.

    But seriously. Best not to count on getting that money back. If you want to flip your truck (again!) in a year or two - the limiting factor will be buyers who need to get financing. And the amount they can finance is based on book value. And book value doesn't go up for a supercharger.
     
  12. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM
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    I thought you couldn't have the ECU flashed back to stock once you had the TRD supercharger installed? That could be an issue...
     
  13. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM
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    i went into the dealer about a month ago.. just to get numbers and fulfill my curiosity to see if getting into a new model was worth it.. short answer.. fuck no.. and why i decided to dump more money into my truck.

    i only owe 10k on my truck.. I have the TRD blower, plus other goodies that would remain on the truck that wouldn't swap over to the new one.. and.. knowing they dont give jack for aftermarket parts and add ons in trade in value.. they offered me 17K for my truck.. i laughed in their face, grabbed my keys.. and did a nice little supercharged goodbye.. :cool:

    ill be keeping my truck till the wheels fall off.. its almost paid off, I know what the KBB on it is.. and what I could get for it if sold private party.. but.. still not letting it go.
     
  14. Sep 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM
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    This is mostly true. Money you sink into a vehicle in the form of "mods" and/or "upgrades" should just be done for yourself and your own personal enjoyment. Very rarely, if ever, will you get the money back out at time of sale. TRD SC kit will run you about $6k if you have it installed at the dealer. (Highly recommended if you still have any factory warranty remaining on your drive train) But you won't get $6k back out of it at time of sale, I'd be surprised if you even got an additional $3k out at time of sale. If you want it, and you have the scratch, do it just because you want to. :)

    At the end of the day, to answer your original question, yeah a Taco with an SC on it would be worth more than the exact same model without it, but not $6k more or even $3k more I don't think. $1,500 to $2k, tops in my opinion.

    This is my understanding as well based on the reading I've done. You'd need a new ECU.

    Edit - very first page, in red, "ECU will need to be replaced if you need an OE tune."

    http://accessories.toyota.com/cadIm...005 Tacoma 1GR 4 0L Supercharger IssN TIS.pdf
     
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    yes you will need a new ECU.. you CAN pull the blower and everything else EXCEPT the injectors.. since the TRD flash is for larger injectors, you'll have to keep those installed on the truck. So, technically you can run the truck without the blower and the ECU still flashed.. you will just be running rich.

    Thats why when searching for a used blower, you will find that 99% of them dont have the injectors, as they are still on the sellers truck... and why TRD injectors are a hot commodity.
     
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    Not looking for speed as much as just more low-end grunt like you find with a turbo-diesel or the Ford EcoBoost. My '14 has this dead zone from tip in throttle to mid range. If you stand on the throttle, no doubt the N/A 4.0 goes like a raped ape, but I don't drive this thing like a 90's Honda with vtec.

    I almost never go WOT ever in this truck, I've done so twice in the 1140 miles logged on the odometer. Trust me if I was looking for speed $5k buys a myriad of vintage go fast toys like a Fox body track toy etc... Or a decent used sport bike.

    Just want a stopgap between the almost no torque the 4.0 has off the line when you are driving it normal, and not WOT. Hope that makes sense.

    *Edit* I also am totally off the idea if it is more for going fast or drag racing, than lowering the torque curve. Forgive me in advance for not knowing much about superchargers. My experience is more with turbocharging, having owned a '13 EcoBoost F-150, a '13 WRX Subaru and '05 Ram Cummins.

    I've only driven a 1st gen Tacoma and 3rd gen 4R, and an old bosses '02-'03ish Ford Lightning as far as supercharged vehicles go. So I'm not exactly sure what to expect. (The Lightnighg I drove was just a beast anywhere in the powerband as I remember) Toyota would probably sell way more TRD superchargers, if every dealer had a demo Tacoma with one to try out first.
     
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    Just do it, you need spend some of your six figure salary somewhere.
     
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    You could just go balls-out and spring for this conversion. Should get you the low-end grunt you're looking for?

    http://dieseltoys.com/tacoma-diesel-conversions
     
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    If you're going to ruin every warranty repair for the rest of your vehicle life by swapping in a diesel motor, why not go with an alcohol injected, blown big block? Low end for days!
     

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