oil

what kinda oil should i use in my 22r? it has 216,xxx. i have Pennzoil 5w-30 in it right now.

 

If Pennzoil 5w-30 got you to 200K+ why would you want to change. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My 2¢

 

i have only had the truck since january. i havent owned it for 200k i wish i had tho

 

Just keep on doing what you are doing. Pennzoil Yellow Bottle conventional is a really good conventional oil. It does a nice slow job of cleaning light sludge and varnish, without plugging your filter. Change it every 3 to 5K miles, and you might get another 200k out of it. IMO do not use a synthetic, it may clean too well, too fast and cause leaks.

 

alright. i will. and i dont use synthetic and dont ever plan on it!

 

The 2004 2.7 I just bought was owned by my dad so I know how it was maintained. He ran Pennzoil yellow bottle for the last 119,000 miles and changed it like clockwork every 5000 miles. I just changed over to Mobil 1 5-30 and I haven't seen a leak yet. Of course, if that is going to happen it'll take longer than a couple thousand miles to do it.

The point I'm trying to make is that Pennzoil is damn good stuff. Usually, if you switch over to a synthetic after running dino for a long time the synthetic will turn dark almost immediately because it cleans so much better. In my case that hasn't happened. The Mobil 1 is still clear. That's because Pennzoil has a very good detergent package.

With the mileage that's on your engine I'd just stick with the Pennzoil. The reason I like synthetics is because they work far better in frigid temps which I have to deal with all winter long. You can also extend your drain intervals with them slightly.

 

I vote for crisco or you can use any other generic vegetable shortening. Should work nicely.

 

true. i have heard alot of good things about penzoil so ill might as well keep using it

 

Yes Pennzoil yellow bottle dino oil is very good oil. So is Castrol. So is Valvoline. So is Chevron. Etc etc. In my experience, anything with the API starburst symbol is going to work just fine if it's changed regularly, which is arguably more important than the brand being used. I do recommend a name brand/national brand over the cheapo store brand. And I do recommend you stick with 5w30 viscosity.

 

my oil get dark REALLY FAST. so i try to change it every 2,500 miles. is that good or should i let it go?

 

The color of the oil doesn't matter. All oil gets dark during use. Send a sample to blackstone for analysis to get an idea of what oil change interval you should be using.

 

I wasn't a synthetic oil "snob" until I could get 5-quart containers of it for $25 at Walmart. You may want to consider Mobil 1 High Mileage synthetic.

 

Why change routine after nearly 30 years of regular oil..... clearly dino oil is fine.


EDIT: 31 years.

 

I would put the cheapest api rated oil in it I could find that was SN rated. Not the SF rated accel oil at walmart.

 

You guys can come pick up my used synthetic for free. Save me a trip to the recycler.

Synthetic runs cooler and breaks down less quickly. Why not pay $4 or $5 more for the cooler run? Or why not pay a few dollars more to double the length of your change intervals? Do the math.

Synthetic demands less energy (be it fuel or electricity). Countless stories of air compressors tripping breakers on dino but running ten to 15 degrees cooler, no trips, when running full synthetic compressor oil.

I'm trying my best to understand your logic but I can't. From a performance or financial standpoint.

 

^ true
Many used oil analyses (UOA) done on oil that *looks* black as tar, has revealed that the oil is still in good condition and could easily go another 3000-5000 miles, or more.

You, sir, have a point.

 

Hehe, I could leave the drain plug out of my last diesel and dump in clean oil. It would be black by the time it hit the catch pan.

 

Ive always used valvoline and pennzoil. My wifes nissan uses valvoline from the dealership, so thats what i will run in it. Not sure what they use in the tacoma but will probably run pennzoil in it after the free oil changes. May even ask them to put pennzoil in it at first change.

 

The only certain way to avoid stripped oil pan plugs, application of proper torque, use of plug gaskets, etc..., is to change the oil yourself in the luxury of your own garage. If you buy Mobil 1 full synthetic from Walmart and Mobil 1 filters from Amazon, a DIY change will cost $30. You can do it while drinking a beer. No dealing with delays at the shop. No having to drive across town. Just my two cents. (perhaps trying to reconvince myself that doing it my way is best...LOL)

 

True, but with my work schedule and lack of garage or concrete/paved driveway, its easier to let the dealership donit. Plus if theres a problem, then they cannot say that it was something that i done.