Clear coat on black 2015 Tacoma

Not likely

 

This has been debated so many times over the past couple of years it is crazy.

The Toyota Tacoma since the 2nd gen came out, has a single stage paint job for their Super White. Toyota has said it, my paint shop has said it, etc, etc. And YES, I hate to burst your bubble, but single stage paint DOES have a clear. It is simply chemically mixed in with the base color so that it can be sprayed with a single process.

A really easy way to realize this is that in a two-stage paint job, the paint is simply thinned out for ease of spraying, and no activator is used. Then when the clear coat is to be applied, and activator aka "hardener" is mixed in just before it is sprayed. The clear will NOT dry without the activator. In a single stage paint, the paint has a activator mixed in just before painting. So there is further proof that the single stage paint has a clear mixed in. I've painted cars and trucks for a while. I think I know this.

 

^^^ I find that surprising. Well after thinking about it, since toyota hasn't updated their engines/bodies of the 2nd gen tacomas in ten years, I guess it makes sense that they still use a paint style from 20-30 years ago. My only question would be, I've seen older 2nd gen tacos, and the white ones don't have crazy oxidation and dull paint. Single stage paints are prone to it.

 

Toyota and Lexus use no clear on top of their paints... EXCEPT for the metalics.

Further research outside of TacomaWorld will also reveal this.

 

If there was no clear coat, why would there be no color coming off during the polishing process?

 

I've never heard of shooting paint with no clear either, but I'm no expert. I figured it was either single stage or base/clear

 

I just listen to the detailer. He said he was surprised at the amount of polishing it needed coming straight from the dealership and said he was certain there was a clear coat on it.

 

Ok so please dont take this the wrong way but i wouldnt trust an email from a customer service rep to be 100% accurate. I have some pretty in depth knowledge of service providers and my assumption is that this front line rep searched their database and provided whatever answer it spit out. I would look for a marketing/press release from toyota as that has several layers of approval process/fact checking before its released. Something like this.
http://www.toyota-global.com/compan...technology_development/materials/details.html
Would love to know the answer to this myself as it seems that even outside of TW this is highly debated without any concrete evidence.

 

essentially all cars that are sold now have a 2 stage paint process applied. its typically going to be a color base coat and urethane clear.. the only exceptions i've seen are fleet/work vehicles like vans and trucks.. they seem to come with a single stage enamel paint. its usually quite durable but just doesn't look as nice. It doesn't maintain that shine like a 2 stage but it usually hold and doesn't chip quite so easily.

 

I'm not surprised. new cars have terrible paint jobs now. If you look at even something like a BMW or Mercedes they have orange peel like crazy in their clear coats, its just terrible what your money buys anymore.

I've painted a few cars myself and gone through the trouble to wet sand and polish at the end, they look like glass when done. that's the way a paint job is supposed to look

 

The basecoat always has clear 'mixed in'. The clear is the substance that holds the pigment together in the basecoat.

The *option* then is whether to add a clearcoat on top of the basecoat.

The clearcoat, on top, increases the DOI, or distinction of image. In other words it gives the paint a more reflective glass like appearance.

Sometimes, with colors like white, the clearcoat is perceived to not add much value since the doi of white is inherently low. So it's not used. I don't agree with the philosophy cause I notice. But it's true the most don't.

To say that the clearcoat is 'mixed in' with the basecaot is (blank). It's true that clear *resin* is mixed always, regardless, or you would have dry pigment powder blowing in the wind. If you have a clearcoat, there is clear in the baecoat. If you have a basecoat no clearcoat, there is clear in the basecoat. There is always clear resin in the system. The issue is do you have a separate clearcoat layer on top without pigment.

The clearcoat is a separate clear top layer that adds a glass like visual property. It's a layer, not an ingredient. It cant be 'mixed' withe anything lest it would cease to exist.

 

Like this ... with a clearcoat layer ....

----------------
clearcoat layer
----------------
basecoat layer
=============

OR ... without a clearcoat layer ...


-----------------
basecoat layer
==============


The clearcoat layer is made with clear resin and has little or no pigment. It ads a nice glass like appearance.

The basecoat layer is made with clear resin plus lots of pigment. It provides the color.

You either have a clear layer on top, a clearcoat, or you don't. It's a physical structure, not an ingredient. It's not mixed into something else.

 

I just find it really hard to believe that someone earlier said that Lexus doesn't use a clear coat layer on their vehicles. It's considered a luxury brand. That's like taking a new Ferrari to Maaco for a paint job.

 

Ignorance is bliss.

 

I like my Toyota factory paint and cake.

 

Your cake sucks but I'd like to buy it anyway.

Funny how people love their Tacoma, then when they want to suckle on mother Toyota and she says get bent then they get all bitchy about how it's bullshit because they haven't updated the truck in 10 years or started making every single OEM Tacoma piece available to buy from a parts department.

Love Toyota. Gimme gimme gimme. I hate Toyota, they forced me to buy my truck, even though it's the same body style as last years! Assholes, who do they think I am? An idiot?!

 

Yep, shit never changes. You forgot the part about the new body style and diesel motor with a touch of ebola right before the upcoming thread lock.
0 fucks here if there is base coat.

 

I can't believe how stubborn and ignorant some people are. I couldn't help but get mad while reading this thread. I didn't want to spend the time and try to explain this to the people who are set in their ways and think they know everything but I want to help the OP. First off, Bama is right! We 99% agree on the facts and dislike the same people.
Single stage paint is the color, reducer, and hardener all mixed in one container when it is ready to be sprayed. This cures the "single stage" paint like a clearcoat. The paint has the gloss built into it like Bama said. When you sand and buff single stage you will get that color on your buffing pads.
Base/Clear paint is a two stage process. Wait for this TacomaRobert, a base color paint has no clear in it. If you sprayed base color with no clearcoat over it it would look flat and have no UV protection. The clearcoat is the second stage of the process which gives the gloss look and UV protection.
Toyota's white is a single stage paint. I don't even want to blow anyone away getting into the 3 stage paints. Please take a step back in the world and for a second pretend that you don't know everything and have an open mind to learn.

 

Quoted in case there's any confusion.

 

What could be confusing?