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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Nov 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM
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    koditten

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    I was visiting in Florida and noticed that many places do much of their fab work outside and flux core was used quite often. Here, I'm not gonna be doing much outside welding, so cover gas is the only way to go.

    Don't take our word for what type of welding you want to do, just do it. The difference between flux core and cover shield gas welding is really amazing.

    I know it would take very special situations for me to ever go back to flux core welding.

    As for learning to weld, I'm all for organized training to obtain certifications, but I don't believe a person needs to go to welding school to be a proficient welder.

    The availability of the internet has made learning to weld on your own amazingly easy. I was self taught, but it took a lot of time actually talking to actual welders. Now, we can post pics of our welds and have feed back almost instantly.

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  2. Nov 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM
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    Videos help much, already saw tons of them and feel ready to weld lol. So flux is better for outdoors and MIG for indoors? I think its because MIG gas can be blown away because of the wind? This is what I have understood

    -MIG indoors
    -Flux outdoors
    -MIG is cleaner
    -MIG and Flux have the same strength
    -MIG is ideal for truck welding
    -MIG dosent requier grinding
    -MIG FTW
     
  3. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:05 AM
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    Pretty much also watching videos is good but torch time is best. Don't get your set up and just start burning on your truck you will destroy it. Take your time and practice on a bunch of scrap before ever touching your truck with the torch. And I Mean a lot not just a few beads you should have weeks if not months of torch time before you try welding on your truck. Different thicknesses ,angles ,speeds & heat there is a lot that go's into a weld so practice a lot!!
     
  4. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:07 AM
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    Especially before you wreck that dom tube. There's no point in dom if the welds aren't good.
     
  5. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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    Ill start doing some weld art haha, then a welding table with wheels and shit, then a welder cart and then some more welding art. Just broke up with the gf so Ill have more time for my truck <3

    Ill do truck parts nothing industrial :)
     
  6. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM
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    I think that pretty much sums it up.

    However, the comment that mig does not require grinding, not sure what you meant about that?

    Are you talking about the base metal and grinding rust or dirt off before welding?

    Or do you mean cleaning the weld afterwards?
     
  7. Nov 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM
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    Obviously you have to clean the metal before welding or grind of the paint, I mean clean the welds afterwards.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM
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    Because it looks horrible, all those bubbles look like boogers or peanuts lol

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    Clean MIG

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  9. Nov 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM
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    That is a bad representation of mig and flux the flux is nasty i can do better then that welding with my feet!! And the mig picture is stacked tacks also not a good weld. Mostly due to not knowing how to weld thin wall sure it will hold but not ideal for mig welding unless its sheet metal.
     
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    Is this a good MIG weld?

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    That does look like a good Mig weld just remember it takes a good operator to preform a good weld so dont think you will be getting those results by just buying a mig.
     
  12. Nov 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM
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    Just saying...pretty welds don't necessarily mean strong welds. If you're just starting off you should be focusing on making strong welds, not making it look like you're stacking dimes. Look at your heat lines. Flip it over and look at your heat lines/penetration. Cut your weld in half and look at penetration and ensure there's no pores.
     
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    Absolute best case scenario weld. Not out of position, completely straight, hands resting on table, etc.
     
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    LOL, being alive is for girls too?
     
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    If you're running at the max amperage of your machine flux will get you a bit more penetration due to the smaller cross sectional area of the wire (hollow wire). It's basically negligible though.
     
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    Fume extractor FTW!!!
     
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    Get high welding :cool:
     
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    Dicked around with vertical running .035 - I've had a difficult time getting it dialed in after running .030 for so long.

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    Built one of these guys -

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    And one of these guys - I've got one on the underside of my table, just found that I was draping my torch when I was working on the other side of my table.

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    Trying to source a double acting ram for the Rogue Bender; I feel like air over hydro is going to get old really quickly..
     
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    The only time I would wear a respirator is for galvanized welding. Otherwise my head isn't usually close enough to get in the smoke cloud. Gotta die from something anyway.
     

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