Colorado B.S. Thread

Yeah it can cause it to lock up and then you need to find a stout tree and Pop it lose. I had to do that once with my green runner.

 

I still need to do that with the line I have right now

 

See, it can even happen with syn line. That's why I questioned the "barely any tension on it at all" approach.

If you're stuck and need your winch, that's not the time when you can back away from a tree or another rig and unspool a stuck line.

 

hence why i got the factor 55 flatlink

but wait it happened with your synthetic line and F55 Prolink chenbro? you somehow had slack in the line and it crossed?

 

I think it crossed while winching out on the Kelly Flats run, and since that was the first time I've actually used my winch it means probably I didn't have enough tension on the line when I wound it up initially.

 

One other thing that just occurred to me too: there's been several times I've pulled people out with my winch with cars that had no way to attach a shackle to. But my hook clips on easily to factory tow points. Safety thimble and a shackle does you no good if you can't attach the shackle.

I'm happy to actually see truck related discussion in this thread for once

 

I mean it is a BS thread so it's not really anything out of the ordinary. I have used a shackel around a factory tow hook before. I've also wrapped my tree saver around a factory hitch and used that as my pull point with someone off the road.

 

My Warn 9000 on the Scout has a tiny hook, basically useless. But the loop in the synthetic line is large enough to pass a clevis through and that is how I've always used it. So in essence I've used it like those Pro-Link units, with much less class.

The Smittybuilt 8000 on the Taco has a huge hook, and a clevis fits inside the hook easily.

No point to all that, I guess use what you like that is safe.

 

On top of the fact that pulling out cars or such is a risk to begin with you can use a tree saver with factory tow hooks on a car. This combined with a D ring and safety thimble/pro link is a much safer pull then a hook.

 

I bet that as a spool in without tension that created the cross over problem. The barely any tension with syn line is just at the very end of a wind up.

 

I'm confused about the slack question. It is hard to pull out if you rewind it in a birdsnest. I get that... But is there a connection that you were asking about with storing it that way? If I have to use it after the first wind you pull out it is slack free.

 

Well I would think it would be much more likely to happen with a steel line.
I did see it on chenbro's syn line but it's probably like eric said, a result of a poor initial wind.
The steel line has a rebound to it that makes the coils unwind a bit if they're not under tension. I know my line was wound very carefully and neatly but then I drove around with the spool disengaged and when I went to use it for the first time, I had a hell of a time unwinding it.
Since then, I keep it hooked, with the spool engaged and a bit of tension on it.

 

Oh I see. Yeah I keep it locked but there is just enough tension to keep it neat. I have never fully unspooled and respooled under load. I am not sure if it would be any tighter than it is now.

 

I been reading a few posts on here and online is syn line worth the price over steel? I understand its one of those things that doesnt get used as much, but when you need it best to have it. I see having syn is nice being lighter easyer to work with than cable. Curious on your guys thoughts who live in co?

 

Synthetic is safer than steel too. When synthetic breaks it just drops to the ground and coils into a little pile vs steel that goes flying. But steel holds up better rubbing against rocks and things, but you can get sleeves for the synthetic.

 

That's what I thought, good too know on the sleeves.

 

I have steel line and the one time i used the winch, i had to pull out all the line and spool it up neat and with tension, otherwise toward the end, the spool was to big and started rubbing on top and bottom. I considered synthetic line, but its a cheap 12,000lb from Harbor Freight that i never use. So while it is a hassle....it works when i need it.

 

I use my winches frequently for whatever reason, the synthetic line is totally worth it. Ever have a stiff steel wire from cable slide into the palm of your hand? It happens even with gloves on.
Cable has been around a long time and certainly works just fine.

The drawback is when you start pulling it off the spool. It's almost a two man job with the wire. Then you gotta pull it to the attachment point, tree or whatever. It's rarely a nice walk through the park, usually means climbing over rocks, fallen trees, mud, butthole deep snow, steep hills, etc...
Cable gets heavy quick and doesn't drag very well.

Synthetic weighs as much as regular rope and can be handled the same way.

If wire cable breaks, you now have a much shorter cable.

If synthetic breaks, you can tie it back together.

And as Ice Horse pointed out, little or no rebound if it does break.

 

butthole deep snow... just the way I like my snow.

 

Has anyone heard of or tried using Orbit-Eye bushings