AIR BAGS = AWESOME!!!

How would you release the air if you have a check valve mid line?

 

Not sure that's why i asked.

 

I don't know either but I would assume you would need some trick setup to run check valves and still have a way to drain from outside the truck.

 

So why don't you....let it go that is? I was always under the impression that forums were to inform people. If you actually read my initial post, where is the backpedaling? I simply stated that single line installs were not the dangerous set up that some of the folks on this forum have declared them. Seems if any one of the folks on this forum gets contradicted you go and get your panties in a twist. Why not try doing some research or actually talking with the folks at Firestone so you are giving accurate info to the folks on this forum rather than starting pissing matches? The original thread concerning the installation was done very well and was informative. What was wrong was the statements concerning single line installs. This was not my "great expertise" as so rudely stated in the response, it was Firestone's information on their product. This discussion has become such a cluster that I would recommend that folks simply ignore all the back and forth about single vs dual air feeds and look to the manufacture who states that the configuration should be determined by your normal load characteristics. The uses listed in my previous post are directly from Firestone so argue your case with them.

 

Well, yes that's exactly how I want my airbags to work. I've had them installed for many years in a series 79 land cruiser and now in my tacoma. Single line setup. It all depends on your intended use. My use is for overlanding, many miles of slow driving over rough roads where articulation is important. I've found that the single line setup gives me better rear axle articulation and less body lean for the very reason you deem dangerous. The land cruiser was heavy, so open road cruising was at a nice and slow pace, no rushing around corners advised The tacoma performs towing duties, ideal for the single line setup.

 

A Cruiser owner! (I have a 69 FJ40)....if you still have the Cruiser you might look into the Daystar cups that allow you to unbolt the bottom connection on the airbags. Installed them on my Tundra and they work great! They act just like normal airbags until you get flexed out and then they simply lift up and allow full articulation (great install / photos from the start of this thread). The Tundra is a work truck and spends a lot of time in fields and such, so quite a bit of crossing ditches and the like. They have been flawless for about 2 years now (had the ride rites on the truck for about 12 years).

 

The cruiser was a great truck, unfortunately I do not own it any longer. The daystar cups were not on the market at the time....it is a good idea though. But, even without the cups the airbags never failed, never ripped, even with some heavy articulation. They limited my articulation, and that is were these cups provide value.

 

I just ordered an OME 3" front lift with a 2" AAL reaR leveling kit with bilstein 5100 rears. I won't be doing any heavy off-roading, should I still add the daystar cradles?

 

The Daystar Cradles are great.....don't do any serious OR with my Tundra but had bracket issues and such with the stock set up. Installed the cradles about 2 years ago and they work great! Also eliminates the need to drain the bags when putting the truck on a lift and such. Well worth the $70ish they cost when I bought them!

 

In another thread:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2n...fficial-firestone-riderite-lift-thread-8.html


Originally Posted by sbsyncro View Post
Hey guys, I've been researching this for my 2005 double cab Tundra (which uses very similar bags). The Tundra kit calls for 6871 bags (6.60" max diameter x 8.30" max height) and the Taco uses the 6766 bags (7.52" diameter x 8.91" max height)

I'm running about a 3" lift in the rear using extra leaves in the leaf pack, and as a result it is tall but very "boaty" in its handling, especially when weighed down (I run a fiberglass shell that weighs about 250 lbs). I do a lot of Baja travel and carry hundreds of pounds of surf and spearfishing gear along with my camping gear, and sometimes tow a small boat, so these bags are something I'm definitely planning to add.

While researching, I ran across this article regarding use of the Daystar bags, which in theory would affect the Tacoma installs even worse than the Tundra ones, since the diameter of the bags is listed as being larger...

http://blog.truckspring.com/post/201...e-air-bag-kits

Also, a posted on Tundrasolutions indicated that he spoke with someone at Daystar and they specifically told him that the cradles are only designed to be used with the smaller airbags.

That all being said, I'm still planning on using the Daystar cradles instead of the spacers that Firestone recommends, since they will limit downtravel/droop too much.... Just figured I'd post this since its relevant to this thread.

-Brent

 

firestone-issues-warning-on-use-of-daystar-air-bag-cradles-with-ride-rite-air-bag-kits


http://blog.truckspring.com/post/20...r-air-bag-cradles-with-ride-rite-air-bag-kits

 

I don't see how the day star cradles will cause bottoming like firestone mentions unless there is not enough air in the bags

 

I don't use the air bags but I ran across this in the net so I thought I'd share it for what it's worth .....

 

I understand, glad you were sharing info you saw. I wasn't arguing with you more stating I just don't see the truth in firestones claim.

I do have bags and cradles, I installed the cradles because I got them with the bags basically for free. Now I'm just wondering if I should take them off, I don't really need them since it's mostly a pavement princess with the exception of a dirt road that a car could slowly travel

 

Just ordered this Firestone air bag kit from AutoAnything. $301 free shipping. I did not get the cradles.Got a buddy with a lift in his shed so that should make install easy.

 

Unless you have a "suspension lift" you don't need the cradles.

 

Nice!

 

Not true. The cradles are not designed for those with a "suspension lift", they are designed to allow the suspension (stock or other wise) to flex without being limited by the air bag. In short, they allow for maximum "droop" travel of the suspension. With the cradles you get the load carrying ability of the air bags without the travel limiting effects. An added benefit is that you do not have to drain the air bags when you raise the vehicle on a frame type lift.

 

Sub'd

 

I'm going to disagree with you on this one. The bags are designed to allow full droop with stock suspension. Adding the cradles when there isn't extra room created by the lift could also cause the cradle to contact the upper bag housing damaging one or the other.