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medic2230 · Dec 9, 2014

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Yes. It only works with PS. However, you might be able to get a student version.

You asked about tips.

I usually shoot in manual mode to make the exposure even across the panorama while shooting and to make it easier when processing (helps avoid banding).

It might be tempting to shoot with a polarizer. I would suggest not using one since it will make things harder in post processing.

If you shoot with a longer lens, you can give your panorama much greater level of detail in the final product.

Overlap by about 30% to make stitching easier. When you overlap, it's helpful to include something that will help you align things if the area is sparse-the same can be said if your subject has a lot of trees.

If you have a pano with complex detail, overlap a bit more than 30%.

Shoot more frames vertically and horizontally than you think you'll need for the final product.

The farther away your subject is, the less you'll need to worry about rotating about about the nodal point. You can read about how to do it here.

There are plenty more, I'm sure. But those are what I can think about off hand.
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All really good info. Listen to this guy.

6spd · Dec 9, 2014

dabbled a bit in colorefx.. feeling a bit meh about it. oh well. I dont like to re edit old pics, generally, so I will take this as a memento of progress.

BuzzardsGottaEat · Dec 9, 2014

What would you all think of a few of us doing a photo swap and showing how we would edit it? Like the editing challenge except not a challenge. Maybe two or three people would want to participate and we can all edit each other's photos for a fresh perspective. Just an idea! Obviously there would/should be no photo stealing ha

ian408 · Dec 9, 2014

BuzzardsGottaEat said: ↑

What would you all think of a few of us doing a photo swap and showing how we would edit it? Like the editing challenge except not a challenge. Maybe two or three people would want to participate and we can all edit each other's photos for a fresh perspective. Just an idea! Obviously there would/should be no photo stealing ha
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It's a chance to get different opinions/learn some cool new stuff.

Blackdawg · Dec 9, 2014

That's why I started the edit challenge. I think it's fasinating how big a difference it can be from just editing.

medic2230 · Dec 10, 2014

Blackdawg said: ↑

That's why I started the edit challenge. I think it's fasinating how big a difference it can be from just editing.
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Key word there was "not" a challenge.

6spd · Dec 10, 2014

edit challenge would be ok, if RAW was used, not jpeg.

ian408 · Dec 10, 2014

6spd said: ↑

edit challenge would be ok, if RAW was used, not jpeg.
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Not everyone can shoot raw.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to limit it to just raw?

BuzzardsGottaEat · Dec 10, 2014

Should probably limit it to Full Frame too. More info in the files that way heh heh

92shawman · Dec 10, 2014

ian408 said: ↑

Yes. It only works with PS. However, you might be able to get a student version.

You asked about tips.

I usually shoot in manual mode to make the exposure even across the panorama while shooting and to make it easier when processing (helps avoid banding).

It might be tempting to shoot with a polarizer. I would suggest not using one since it will make things harder in post processing.

If you shoot with a longer lens, you can give your panorama much greater level of detail in the final product.

Overlap by about 30% to make stitching easier. When you overlap, it's helpful to include something that will help you align things if the area is sparse-the same can be said if your subject has a lot of trees.

If you have a pano with complex detail, overlap a bit more than 30%.

Shoot more frames vertically and horizontally than you think you'll need for the final product.

The farther away your subject is, the less you'll need to worry about rotating about about the nodal point. You can read about how to do it here.

There are plenty more, I'm sure. But those are what I can think about off hand.
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6spd said: ↑

for any kind of panoramic shot, it would be best if you shoot with the camera on on full manual, so you there is less work on the back end. set your WB, exposure for the scene, lock focus and then shoot.

with your stitching hardware, I would do high quality jpegs. I don't know the technical difference with TIFFs or jpegs, but in the end, jpegs are fine. just keep in mind, it will still be a large file.

edit: what Ian said.

also using longer lenses will have less artifacts than wider lenses in the end product.
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Awesome, thanks for the tips! I already kinda do most of those, but was shooting in shutter priority. I tried a few tonight with full manual, so we'll see how those turn out!
Should be posting some of them tonight...

6spd · Dec 10, 2014

ian408 said: ↑

Not everyone can shoot raw.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to limit it to just raw?
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better result. jpeg is already compressed. consumer cameras these days dont output RAW files? or would the pictures also come from phones and point and shoots?

ian408 · Dec 10, 2014

6spd said: ↑

better result. jpeg is already compressed. consumer cameras these days dont output RAW files? or would the pictures also come from phones and point and shoots?
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A lot of P&S cameras don't support raw but to be honest, a JPEG isn't all that bad to work with-I've lifted a few images off the page when I've wanted to show something. It's not perfect but it does work.

If you link to a full res image, you could always put the raw file on dropbox if you really wanted to.

medic2230 · Dec 10, 2014

92shawman said: ↑

Awesome, thanks for the tips! I already kinda do most of those, but was shooting in shutter priority. I tried a few tonight with full manual, so we'll see how those turn out!
Should be posting some of them tonight...
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Manual is the way to go on that. It is going to be a lot easier on you in post. In shutter priority your aperture is going to possibly change over the pano.

BuzzardsGottaEat · Dec 10, 2014

I almost always just know which I like better when flipping between color and b&w. This one is stumping me. Each time I feel like I've decided which to stick with I start swaying myself toward the other ha

Also, I love this little Ricoh GR I'm testing out at super high ISOs. The noise is really appealing to me. Almost filmic. This is at ISO 8000 with noise added in LR5 at 24.

R0000131.jpg by AdelphosChaz, on Flickr

R0000131-2.jpg by AdelphosChaz, on Flickr

EDIT: If anyone looks at the Exif it's going to look a little funny to you. I'm testing this cameras high ISO look/feel right now so when this guy walked in a quick cranked up my shutter speed in order to get the ISO up there to 8000. I'm aware I could have shot it at 1/60th or 1/125th and had a much cleaner file haha I'm specifically checking out the gritty high ISO qualities of this camera Feel free to critique!

BuzzardsGottaEat · Dec 10, 2014

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a9t4yb2r5xjmxsj/AAAkZICb4qd5TlL8xrOE6amZa?dl=0

If anyone would care to show how they would edit it, go ahead.

I think we were overthinking the whole editing thing ha it doesn't have to be official with official rules. Just post up a photo if you're comfortable with others editing it. Then they will if they have time or want to ha. No need for restrictions.

92shawman · Dec 10, 2014

medic2230 said: ↑

Manual is the way to go on that. It is going to be a lot easier on you in post. In shutter priority your aperture is going to possibly change over the pano.
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Yeah I'm seeing that mainly with the sunset panoramas that I tried to take a few days ago, like this one. I had to deal with some lines in the stitched pano and I was too lazy to go back and re-edit the input images, so I just worked around it if I could...
Latacunga Sunset by 92shawman, on Flickr

But for the ones that I took in the daylight the exposures were all pretty similar so I didn't really have that issue.

These were taken up at Cajas National Park near Cuenca, Ecuador, by the way.

Laguna Toreadora by 92shawman, on Flickr

Mossy Pond in El Cajas by 92shawman, on Flickr

Cajas National Park View by 92shawman, on Flickr

Unknown Lake 1 by 92shawman, on Flickr

Critiques, as always, are welcomed! There are more on my flickr.

medic2230 · Dec 10, 2014

BuzzardsGottaEat said: ↑

I almost always just know which I like better when flipping between color and b&w. This one is stumping me. Each time I feel like I've decided which to stick with I start swaying myself toward the other ha

Also, I love this little Ricoh GR I'm testing out at super high ISOs. The noise is really appealing to me. Almost filmic. This is at ISO 8000 with noise added in LR5 at 24.

R0000131-2.jpg by AdelphosChaz, on Flickr

EDIT: If anyone looks at the Exif it's going to look a little funny to you. I'm testing this cameras high ISO look/feel right now so when this guy walked in a quick cranked up my shutter speed in order to get the ISO up there to 8000. I'm aware I could have shot it at 1/60th or 1/125th and had a much cleaner file haha I'm specifically checking out the gritty high ISO qualities of this camera Feel free to critique!
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I like the B&W better. Might try an edit on this one for you.

BuzzardsGottaEat · Dec 10, 2014

Have at it. It's basically a real world test shot. Nothing important

Blackdawg · Dec 10, 2014

92shawman said: ↑

Seems to me like the highest quality jpeg exports are similar to the tiffs on my computer, too, but of course that might just be my monitor, as Monte pointed out. Thanks!

Alright, so it sounds like what I'm doing is similar to your #2 and #3, just with my arcsoft "panorama maker 5" program instead.
Hmm makes sense that my monitor wouldn't show the difference, I just use my windows laptop for all my photo work.
I did notice that the program did a liiiittle bit better with auto-stitching tiffs over jpegs, but that was easily fixed with manually picking the points. I'll probably do tiffs from now on and just delete the tiffs afterwards to conserve hard drive space. It's not like I'll be using the exported tiffs after I create the panorama anyways and I'll keep the CR2.

I feel like I do a pretty good job at taking panoramas, but I've never read pointers for actually shooting them well. Do you have some quick tips? I know you're busy with school, so no worries if you don't go too in depth or get to this quickly.

Hmmm Camera Raw sounds super helpful, but is it only available as a PS plug-in? That's what it looks like to me from a brief google search.

Yep, that's what I'll be doing! Thanks!
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Sorry i missed this Kevin.

But Ian and murph covered it pretty well.

I also almost always shoot vertical for mine now instead of horizontal.

medic2230 · Dec 10, 2014

Blackdawg said: ↑

Sorry i missed this Kevin.

But Ian and murph covered it pretty well.

I also almost always shoot vertical for mine now instead of horizontal.
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Yup, I always shoot panos vertical.

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