NEWS: Federal Investigation into Unintended Acceleration - CLOSED!

Good find, even if older. If what the Justice Department says is true (and it must be partially, considering Toyota agreeing to the fine), that's a big black eye on Toyota.

 

Thanks for sharing!

I hope the everyone who posted in this thread back in the day reads the article. Some of the comments/statements people made make you wonder WTF were they thinking!?!?!

Should be ashamed of themselves...

 

I think Toyota agreed to fine just to end this.
They made recall on floormats to satisfy NTHSA.
I would say
If somebody is that dum, to put too many floor mats, I would rather see him not drive at all.

 

Did you actually read the report before posting? Some/Most? of the accidents did not involve the floor mats. This was just Toyota's excuse at trying to cover up the more serious pedal/parts issue.

 

I did read and all I see is wishful thinking.
Toyota unintended acceleration recall consists of
1. Shaving the length of gas pedal
2. Removing nice floor mats and replacing them with paper thin one
3. Installing brake override software.

So are you saying recall was not correct and some other faulty part needs to be replaced ?
And NHTSA is in bed with Toyota and allowed them to replace floor mats instead replacing some faulty part?

 

Wishful thinking... I think not! Toyota wouldn't have been fined $1.2billion for no reason.

And who said anything about NHTSA being in bed with Toyota?

It has nothing to do with what Toyota did to fix the problem. It's what they DIDN'T do.

It's obvious, based on your comments below that you are, still, seriously missing the point.

 

I think this is a load of BS, seriously if someone isn't smart enough to slap the car into neutral and shut off the engine if it starts to unintentionally accelerate, they probably deserve to die. Hate to sound harsh, but human stupidity shouldn't be blamed on the manufacturer.

 

So you believe that it's actually OK for a car to accelerate unintentionally?

 

wut

 

I am askign you to point to me which one of the three items covered by the recall is the Faulty part that Toyota had "covered"?
I am not asking for much here, there are three items which one is Toyota manufacturing defect?

 

Based on your question, it would be #2 (part 2) that they covered up. Sticky pedal.


The first recall, on November 2, 2009, was to correct a possible incursion of an incorrect or out-of-place front driver's side floor mat into the foot pedal well, which can cause pedal entrapment.

The second recall, on January 21, 2010, was begun after some crashes were shown NOT to have been caused by floor mat incursion.

This latter defect was identified as a possible mechanical sticking of the accelerator pedal causing unintended acceleration, referred to as Sticking Accelerator Pedal by Toyota. The original action was initiated by Toyota in their Defect Information Report, dated October 5, 2009, amended January 27, 2010.[1]

#3.) Following the floor mat and accelerator pedal recalls, Toyota also issued a separate recall for hybrid anti-lock brake software in February 2010.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle_recalls

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/21/toyota-issues-new-voluntary-recall-for-sticking-accelerator-peda/

 

interesting article.......as unlikely as it sounds to some of you, its definitely not something to laugh about.

 

Based on your answer how is that Toyota manufacturing defect?
Toyota sold floor mats when installed properly ( secured with clips supplied) still have a inch of clearance between the pedal. ( I know I have floor mat I bought with my truck)
Can you explain to me how is that manufacturing defect ? Problem only happens when you install too many floor mats or they are simply tossed on the floor.

 

We got another one going...


Read it again brotha... The primary defect wasn't the floor mats.

This latter defect was identified as a possible mechanical sticking of the accelerator pedal causing unintended acceleration, referred to as Sticking Accelerator Pedal by Toyota. The original action was initiated by Toyota in their Defect Information Report, dated October 5, 2009, amended January 27, 2010.

This is the Toyota manufacturing defect.

Again, Toyota wouldn't have been fined $1.2billion simply for people putting in too many floor mats.

Let us know when the light goes on... as it's clearly off right now!

 

I have had unintended accel in my truck. Because my foot was on the GAS and BRAKE at the same time. Then I got used to the pedals and its fine.

Don't you think if there were any consistency to this issue there would be a mass recall or part exchange. They havent identified any one issue to be at fault in each case.

They added extra hooks to the floor at some point to hold the mat in place for lazy fucks who plop into there seat and drag there feet across the ground jamming the mat off to the side. And then there gonnal leave it and drive...wtf!

I know someone with an 09 corolla that does this and it really pisses me off and is unsafe. Would you throw all the trash in your car down by your feet while driving...?

If there is a real problem why would Toyota pay $1b just so that all of us can die for the next 30 years or usable life of this truck. Don't you think the follow up would be to fix it...

They settled BC that's what large companies do. I am pretty sure Toyota sales aren't hurting right now.

People are responsible for themselves. You take your safety in your own hands when you drive in many ways.

In a few years we will send Obama and these 400 liars/unaccountable people up to "help" you guys destroy businesses in your country.

Sorry but I think no one takes responsibility for shit...like paying your own damn healthcare bills and keeping shit out of your pedals.

 

Got one check for 92.00 . Says vehicle identified as member of class action lawsuit who was eligible but did not file a claim. Anyone one else got any think? Was for 05 -10 Tacoma and some other vehilcle .Got check last week

 

Again, some of you people keep focusing on the stupid floor mats as the problem. It wasn't the fucking floor mats that was the main cause.

It was a defective/sticky pedal.

Toyota just used the floor mats as an excuse and part of the cover up.

You guys really need to read the article before posting up stupid comments like this.

Except for maybe one incidence, people were not to blame. Toyota was and they were fined because they tried to cover up the problem. They only settled because it would have been much worse had they didn't.

 

There is probably more to this than floor mats:
What no one seems to address is possible defects in the ECU/ECU programming.
As everything is drive by wire, including the cruise control and crusie control accel function, all that has to happen is the ecu to 'decide' (using presumably defective programming) to enable the accelerate function. (You can do the same thing if your cruise is on and your knee presses up on the cruise switch.) And off the vehicle goes.
If this code is 'defective enough' even the brake switch normally disengaging the cruise could be non functional.
And even if there is no cruise option on a particular vehicle, the software/functionality is still there as cruise can be added fairly easily.
Me thinks installation of 'brake override' software may be jargon for an excuse to rework the ecu for other suspect areas as well. But, we'll never know for sure. It may have resulted in newer cars receiving updated ecu wiring with better shielding?
Yeah, for certain it's more that just floor mats and fat-footing the pedals.....

 

No offense but are you stupid or something.
I gave you a list of things that dealer will do when I bring my truck for Unintended acceleration recall. Recall approved by NHTSA.

Where do you see sticky pedal Unit replacement there ?

 

Exactly. Maybe you should open a business that just replaces "sticky drive by wire pedals" since Toyota obviously has no intention of doing anything.

I still feel that if there were a difinitive issue with the pedal actuator we would all have gotten letters by now.

Why would they want everyone to die lol.