New Tacoma to be shown in Detroit

*to be a silverado I mean.

 

definitely not too small to be a silverado, almost looks like a 3/4 ton to me

 

?? What are you getting at PR? It's not just me though. I am speaking for others here as well, that have since disappeared. Funny how some TWers (not you PR) think development occurs last minute (because of GM twins) or right when the current gen came out (10 years ago), that one facepalms from what I've read at times. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening or not on schedule.

 

I am just going off of what the article said that it was an "unreleased Toyota". Why would a current generation Silverado/Colorado/Canyon/Sierra be in camo? Pics are grainy and cannot be blown up. Its def not the new Tundra or the new Titan.

 

More pics. Help me decide people...

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2014/12/three_injured_in_montrose_town.html#incart_river

 

Look at the bumper, fender, and tail lights
GM without a doubt. Looks like a silverado.

 

Look at the bedsides and taillights, gm right there. This has nothing to do with tacomas.
Funny cause I just saw a crash like this happen on my way to work, same kind of full size truck. Happened under the overpass as I was at a stoplight, the guy is turning left under the bridge and looked like he tried to drift, couldn't correct himself and fishtailed right into the pillar. Didn't take a pic though

 

Its not a Silverado. Its more likely a GMC by the rear sheetmetal. Crappy small town reporting I guess. They said it was an "unreleased toyota" and it got me excited.

 

Hey stop copying my conclusions
I wonder if the radical paintjob hypnotized someone while they were driving

 

Toyota called a hit and staged the accident for publicity

 

I bet you it is a GMC Canyon with baby Duramax getting tested for 2016 release. Silly it is in camo, but automakers do that stuff regularly.

 

Yup I think youre right, the way the box rolls under the cab, its the only truck I can think of that looks like that.

 

I didn't make a joke about TW member whippersnapper, I was just making a lighthearted jab at CMI after Chris' reply to him about how this has been talked about for 5 years, etc,. and blamed his youthful ignorance on not knowing that.

I think I replied to the MPGs but let me go back a few pages and check. If not, I'll reply.

Just having fun.
I have zero emotional stock in Toyota or Tacoma's, but since I own a 2013 and have a couple gripes about it, I definitely hope they're addressed (reliably and efficiently) in the redesign. I plan on keeping my truck until it turns into dirt, so I am not in the market anymore - but I hope that when this truck does need replacement that I have an improved Tacoma to consider, that gets better MPG, doesn't suffer from the awful rear leaf spring issues that they all have (so far), and feels equal or better in regards to quality as my 2013 does. The black plastic cladding on the bumper in the Toyota snapshot "release" is a little worrisome as I generally notice when black plastic cladding has been added to a steel part like a bumper, and to that extent, it tends to be because the rest of the truck has a lot also. I hope that isn't the case, because a shittier looking truck than the black plastic cladded first gen Avalanche's has never existed. The big reason I went with the SR5 on my own Tacoma was for the painted fender flares and front bumper cover (also the rest of the package was good... but I digress). It fades over time, discolors unevenly and needs extra care than a normal car wash to keep it looking good. That isn't something I want to spend $25k on, to me that's a feature of cars that are $15-16k. If the MSRP is jumping to the $40k range with the Tacoma and they've thrown black cladding on it, for my money that's a bad sign.

I don't really care about the next Tacoma, but I'm curious what changes are made. My bigger concerns is that to get 20 MPGs consistently I chose the I4/auto and not the V6, which in a midsize truck seems unfortunate. My last truck got 11, but was 4x4 V8 and full size. Horrible fucking MPGs regardless, which is why it found a new home. I'm not an engineer or automotive designer, either, so I don't know everything that goes into increasing MPGs in engines and vehicles reliably, but if I was shopping for a Tacoma and I had to decide on a turbocharged engine or an engine that cuts off cylinders I'd pass on both. I guess in the end I'm hoping the new Tacoma is one I'd buy, and not one that kills the deal for me later on if/when I replace my 2013.

 

No way it is a new Silverado. Sierra doesn't come close to the Silverado in sales.They are selling good actually. Also no way they would redesign their full sized trucks after a couple of years. Too much R and D costs. The Colorado/Canyon also have step bumpers.
I am pretty sure it is a GMC canyon. It looks similar sized to the vehicle it collided with because new mid-sized trucks are almost as big as old full sized. See attached sales stats from pickuptrucks.com

 

I wanted one at a time, but really, the design department didn't exactly stay overtime when designing the Element. BMW X3s and X1s with black plastic cladding on the lower bumpers look like shit also. Not a fan of it.

The second gen Element with painted panels was a big upgrade, but still gets poor MPGs for a car that size, IMO.

PS I don't own any bright colored shoes. I have boots, and I have running shoes (black with green).

 

Thanks. I'm not really sure on where I'd like the MPGs to be to be honest. I think the current generation Tacoma should be getting like 20 MPG combined in V6 and 4x4 IMO. The truck isn't oversized, the bed is mostly composite (though I don't know the weight savings of a traditional bed), and the modestly sized OEM tires should be doing better than they are. Again, I'm not educated on automotive anything, so I could be dreaming. Not sure if that's an engine technology issue, though in this day and age I'd assume it's not. Maybe it's just putting another gear in the transmission?

My I4 4x2 was getting 22-23 combined, stock. It's a pretty small engine moving around a good sized (but not big) truck so it's pretty good, I don't really have a big problem with the I4 MPG for my truck. The V6 wasn't an option though, because most people at the time were getting 15-17 MPG combined and that's really poor IMO. It's one thing to be lifted with heavy LT rubber, few hundred pounds of armor and get 15 MPG, but it's another when it's a stock truck. Some got better MPG, but not enough to be the rule rather than the exception. For $27k for a Prerunner V6 DCSB or so it wasn't worth the extra gas cost for me which would have been doubled over the car my Tacoma replaced.

TL;DR version:
I want a V6 4x4 that gets 20 MPG combined. I don't want it to be at the cost of a cylinder shutoff, or 8 speed automatic transmission. 6 speed automatic should be plenty with current engine technology being used (IMO).

I'd rather have an I5 or I6 than a turbocharged I4, with comparable MPGs to the current I4. Better MPG is better.. but it needs more grunt and capability.

 

It different up here in Canada, us canucks are pickier with looks, and I see way more sierras driving around than silverados. I personally like the look of the sierra more. I almost bought one a couple months ago.

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2014/08/canada-pickup-truck-sales-figures-july-2014-ytd.html

 

It's obvious that the Colorado and canyons got a whole lot bigger, can easily mistake as a full size if you're looking at the bedsides

 

What are you talking about?

Lots of material there. I agree with what you said, I don't want anything that might fail. KISS. The only thing is that I think this 3rd gen better be able to beat 20 MPG in its most inefficient form, the largest engine and 4x4. I expect at least 23 real world mileage stock. Now with lifts and all that, I don't expect it to be any higher than people get now, 15-17. But base should be well over 20, 20 was a milestone way back when but now it's a little low. I'm with you, I'm keeping this truck until the wheels fall off and then putting them back on. The third generation Taco will be waaaay down the line for me. I just turned 20 this week and I'm not buying anything new until I have a cozy home (garage) for it to sleep in, so that should tell you it will be quite a while

I can't promise I won't rip off any parts that fit my truck though

 

I'd be pleasantly surprised if the largest 4x4 configuration got over 20 MPG in the real world. But then again, I don't want it to come at the price of more complex engine/electrical/transmission. 6 cylinders, 6 speeds. Inline engine should be 5, and hopefully more cylinders than 4.