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Oil filter study

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by geochurchi, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. Dec 16, 2014 at 4:39 PM
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    KenLyns

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    It works fine with synthetic. Dissections reveal the TRD filter is effectively a K&N painted black, but it's less expensive and fully OEM endorsed.
     
  2. Dec 16, 2014 at 5:30 PM
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    This, I go with WIX since there isn't a dealership here. Used to use fram but they really have gone to shit in the past years, they used to be good but idk what happened.
     
  3. Dec 16, 2014 at 6:05 PM
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    Someone made a comment about a filter not being the cause of an engine failure.

    A couple years back a buddy changed his oil at my house using decent oil but a fram filter. He drove away and noticed less than 5lbs of oil pressure on the gauge a few minues later. He came back and we checked everything and couldn't find the problem.

    After an hours of searching , On a whim I said change the filter. He swapped it with a wix and the oil pressure was back.
    We cut the filter open to find it had torn away from the center and collapsed.

    He got lucky and didn't hurt the motor but that was the last fram any of ever used. Not that it mattered to them but that day they lost 6 customers and another 50 at least that I've shared the story with.
     
  4. Dec 16, 2014 at 6:10 PM
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    I don't see a reason why anyone should be debating this. If you go with a Wix or OEM or something like that, you're paying about the same price. It's mainly about folks' ease of acquiring the part or cost. I just mentioned the bigger filters as an idea for people reading, it's basically the same price so why not get some more filtering ability than what you'd get for the so called "stock" part offered by local parts stores. OEM is good obviously, but some of us have less of a drive to get a Wix or Mobil filter or whatever. You can't go wrong with Wix or OEM or PureOne. You might as well get the biggest sumbitch you can fit on there if it's +-$0.50.
     
  5. Dec 16, 2014 at 6:21 PM
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    So it would be good for 8-9,000 miles?
     
  6. Dec 16, 2014 at 7:40 PM
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    Why have the debate?? Because some bean counter some ware find a cheap Chinese knock off for 50 cent cheaper and the switch is made. Who knows when that happens?? It's not announced , you just get sh*t thinking you are getting the good old stuff. You got to keep the good brands , well good!!

    I have see the insides of a fram after running on an air cooled 911 engine. The glues and filter melted away. By all means stay away from fram.
     
  7. Dec 16, 2014 at 9:11 PM
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    bellassaiw10

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    I just buy about 12 filters form th dealer they throw in gaskets and then before I run out I order 12 more, only costs me like $45
     
  8. Dec 17, 2014 at 7:48 AM
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    Nope, OEM filter is what was mentioned and it was me.
     
  9. Dec 17, 2014 at 9:33 AM
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    No way to know unless you pull the filter after 5000 mi and put it on a test rig to check for pressure drop (due to clogging). Even then, the results will be specific to the engine type. 5VZ has iron block and dry timing belt, 1GR has alum block and timing chain lubricated by oil. Even though one common filter can be fitted to both engines, the filter may be fine for 8-9000 miles on one engine but just making 5000 miles on the other.

    As seen from the dissection videos, the TRD/K&N filter has less filter media surface area than OEM, but uses polymer/foam media instead of paper, so it isn't a direct comparison.
     
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  10. Dec 17, 2014 at 9:41 AM
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    I use FRAM :anonymous:
     
  11. Dec 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM
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    Your poor engine!
     
  12. Dec 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM
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    The last guy who used FRAM needed a frame replacement not long after. Don't let this happen to you! :D

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Dec 17, 2014 at 3:44 PM
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    Regardless of make/model of vehicle, I usually stick with OEM. I just order a 6/12 pack and I'm good for a while.

    I see BOSCH isn't mentioned. Where do they hold up on this list?
     
  14. Dec 17, 2014 at 4:15 PM
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  16. Dec 19, 2014 at 4:58 AM
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    I have used Fram for many years and in many vehicles and have never had any issues,I do change every 5K,I have for the past couple of years had the dealer do the change for convenience,but the price has increased so I will start changing it myself ,and probably go with the Toyota filter.
    Cheers!
    Geo
     
  17. Dec 19, 2014 at 7:08 AM
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