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Limited Service Campaign for Corrosive Resistant Compound

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jdvailco, May 20, 2014.

  1. Dec 18, 2014 at 3:19 PM
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    Markcal

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    I was most worried about the larger rectangular holes and not so much about the 2 smaller holes, but I might use a little silicone chalking to plug the holes. They did coat the inside of the frame with paraffin wax, so I think the little that does get through, wouldn't cause any corrosion. They leave those wholes unplugged on new frames and replacements and not all holes should be plugged. There are holes underneath that are there for drainage.


    When I went to pick up my truck at the dealership, after completing the CRC application. I noticed they had not install any plugs on they frame, so I had the service manager come out and look at it. After looking at it, he went back inside to get a technician. The technician went under my truck and installed some plugs. He didn't install any plugs on the frame under the wheel wells, so i ask him, why he didn't and he said "they don't need plugs".

    I also asked the service manager if Toyota extended the warranty on the frame to 15 years, from the date it was purchased and he said that there is no warranty extension on my 2006 truck.
     
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  2. Dec 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM
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    So, after they apply the coating to the frame Toyota is say adios have fun and don't come back. That is BS!!!
     
  3. Dec 19, 2014 at 4:36 AM
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    don't know about your dealer, but the dealer that did the CRC on my truck told me to come back in 6 months for a follow-up. heck they even detailed the truck for me after they got over spray on it.
    and what's the deal with the plugs on the frame? yes water can get in but it can also drain out. life's to short fellas;)
     
  4. Dec 19, 2014 at 5:51 AM
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    Since the whole frame can get wet and then dry off, why even bother with coating ????
     
  5. Dec 19, 2014 at 3:27 PM
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    I don't think it's asking too much to have Toyota give me the same protection newer and replacement frames have, when they preform the LSC, knowing I will have no warranty extension.

    My neighbor has a 2004 Tacoma and said after having the CRC applied the rust came back after the CRC came off. He ended up getting a new frame because Toyota extended the warranty on his Tacoma.

    I'm going to write a letter to Toyota and ask, why after 10 years of buy backs and frame replacements, this is still happening. If Dana wasn't making frames to Toyota's quality specification, why didn't they have the quality process checking in place to detect these bad frames before they had the Toyota name put on them. Especially with years of frame problems, you would think Toyota would make sure they are being made to their quality standards, even if that means they brought their own process checkers to Dana.

    Yeah, it's true that life is short, but I bought this truck because of the reputation of Toyota making quality trucks. The plugs may be insignificant to some, but I hope to keep this truck as long as possible. I kind of wished Toyota added next to the washing/ waxing part of the owners manual, that they told as to get the frame treated with a coating as soon as possible.
     
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  6. Dec 19, 2014 at 5:01 PM
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    Quote " .....I don't think it's asking too much to have Toyota give me the same protection newer and replacement frames have, when they preform the LSC, knowing I will have no warranty extension. ...... "

    Are the replacement frames with at new warrantee?
    Where was this stated???
     
  7. Dec 19, 2014 at 5:37 PM
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    My point was that after having the LSC for CRC preformed, my frame will not be covered under an extended warranty, so I want the same protection ie: frame plugs installed, as newer and replacement frames have. The replacement frames are new, so wouldn't need an extended warranty, so sorry if my wording came cross as stating that.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2014 at 6:04 PM
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    No problemo!

    Did you look at the CRC instructions posted above? They show that they should plug the larger square holes ....

    I understand your warrantee issue, but I guess that Toyota feels that by inspection and coating it's done it's obligatory maintenance. IMHO
     
  9. Dec 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM
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    I guess you didn't read my response to your earlier posting about those technical instructions. Those instructions are for Canada only and if you read further you will know why. They didn't perform the LSC and CRC using that document when I had mine done. They not only didn't install all the plugs listed, but I was never given the 57 ml driveway cleaner sampler bottle listed and I haven't heard anyone on this forum that ever received one, after the CRC was applied, so I think that might have been a document applying to Canada only, as the person who uploaded it was Dodaminator, from Canada and the document he uploaded with this one said for Canada.

    If you look at thread #466, on this forum that Dogaminator posted you can see the first document with the one you posted, said they will extend the warranty to 15 years/unlimited mileage from in service date, on 32,059 vehicles in Canada, if you bring in the vehicle before March 31, 2016. Toyota said they will not extend the warranty on U.S. vehicles, so this must apply only to Canada.

    Yeah, the warrenty was extended to older Tacoma's, because the frames were defective and I feel we should be given the same warranty because the frames are defective.
     
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  10. Dec 20, 2014 at 7:50 AM
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    GotchA ! My bad. these threads can get repetitive and real long and you forget what's what - beside the fact I'm get older !

    Good luck !!
     
  11. Dec 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM
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    When this campaign first came out, my state was included but my VIN was not. Out of curiosity, I called the dealer today and they said it is now applicable to my VIN. They said I can bring the truck in, they will remove the bed and hand clean the frame, spray the frame and even give me a rental for the week. I am wondering if I should wait until the last minute to have the coating applied or get it done now.
     
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  12. Dec 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM
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    I'm waiting until this time next year. especially with the backlog of work the dealerships are going through(from what i've read through this thread). one more PA winter of road salt and crap, then re-evaluate in the spring and see what my frame looks like.
     
  13. Dec 23, 2014 at 8:10 AM
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    Frame failed inspection today, will be in a loaner for the next 3-4 months minimum (time for them to get new frames in)
    I can deal with a brand new 2015 Corolla S loaner for a while
     
  14. Dec 23, 2014 at 8:41 AM
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    I don't drive my truck that often. It is a secondary vehicle for me so I'm weighing the risk of letting the rust get worse by not having it sprayed and hoping for a hole in the frame in hopes of getting a new frame. But I don't think that will happen so I may just get it sprayed now to prevent any rust.
     
  15. Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM
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    Good point. Per the question you answered, My answer would be...

    If it's not bad I'd wait 6 months or so until the backlog is cleared up. If the frame needs replacement I'd go in then. If at that time the frame is only going to need a CRC Coating - I'd wait and go in just before the deadline. Of course if it's not safe to drive - I'd drop it off when it's at that point.
     
  16. Dec 23, 2014 at 1:05 PM
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    I had a person from AAA come test my battery and as he was testing it, he said he just bought a used 2006 Tacoma, so I asked him if he had it inspected for a perforation yet and said he had to own it more than 1 year to get the LSC preformed. I said to him I should of waited till 2016.

    After having said that, I'm glad I had it preformed when I did. The day I was to pick it up poured out, so I asked them if I could pick it up the following day and they said that would be fine, being the 48 hours they had it. I was able to get the CRC applied when it was warm/dry and had the time to keep I off the road when it was raining for the first month, which they tell you to not wash for 30 days.

    I wash my truck so much that when I had my inspection preform the service person asked if my truck was from the south, because it look so good. I didn't want to take the chance of letting it go through the winter till 2016 not undercoated and knowing I still wouldn't have a perforation, but letting the rust get worse. I was thinking that if everyone does the same thing a wait till the last minute they might be so backed up, then rush when doing the CRC, so I thought it was best to get the LSC done when it could best be applied and most importantly dry properly.

    I have only washed the frame once and used a garden hose with low pressure. Knowing that my frame will aways be pliable/soft, I don't feel comfortable using the high pressure at the car wash, because I feel that will eventually take off the coating, so I will just use a garden hose on the frame and make the coating last as long as possible.
     
  17. Dec 23, 2014 at 5:21 PM
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    I don't think the backlog will ever clear up. There are still people with Sequoias and Tundras waiting to get their frames replaced. Adding all these Tacomas just to the replace pile will keep that backlog going.
     
  18. Dec 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM
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    Quite possible. I made an earlier comment (perhaps in another thread) that basically said that I can't believe that Toyota is going to change all the frames that will fail. I bet the QC guy got promoted to accounting.
     
  19. Dec 26, 2014 at 3:23 PM
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    What surprises me is that Canada gets a 15 year warranty extention on the frames after the coating, but the US doesn't? WTF is up with that?
     
  20. Dec 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM
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    Hi everyone,



    I had the CRC done by the dealer (US - Illinois).

    The positive point is that the coating dried, and the joblook good :). However
    the negative point is that they only covered a very limitedarea :confused:. Only the two side members of the frame, and only on the most visible areas.They did not cover: cross members of the frame (members that connect from leftto right the side members), the bracket welded to the frame of the leafsprings, the area of the frame in the engine compartment. Didn’t installany plug. They spayed a little around the spare wheel, but didn’t remove it.


    Can anybody confirm if this is the standard for the US CRCprocedure?
     

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