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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Dec 27, 2014 at 5:53 PM
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    koditten

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    Even if they would have shot it with some paint, would make it 100% better looking. It wouldn't have drawn the attention to guys like us.
     
  2. Dec 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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  3. Dec 27, 2014 at 6:03 PM
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    Yup!

    Like you said, it's probably going to be just fine for it's entire service life in it's current form.
     
  4. Dec 27, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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    Yep, any time someone meantions "nipple" and "touch" in the same sentence is always good.
     
  5. Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM
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    weldertaco Mr.13%bodyfat

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    Been here 3 weeks now. Really missing stick and tig welding. Flux core gets to boring and doesn't make pretty welds :pout:

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  6. Jan 6, 2015 at 5:59 PM
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    weldertaco Mr.13%bodyfat

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    :wave:

    Been at this company over a month now. Working on my own and in a routine but don't think I'll be here longer than a year.

    Flux core just isn't my preferred choice of welding.

    Kinda wanna get into some stick and tig.

    Really would love tig but not proficient at it yet enough to get a job doing it.

    At least on pipe. I could do groove welds on plate all day tho lol
     
  7. Jan 6, 2015 at 10:56 PM
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    Stuff and things that make it better.
    Flux sucks, unless your a diver (then it's cash money). You got a gig, deal with it for a bit ( you young bastard :jealous: ) learn all you can from the 9 to 5 pros, then branch out to your neighbors/nearby welders work forces, and in the mean time, get your own tig set up at home and perfect your style. You could start your own Taco only company (fuck JEEP), and then who knows, I might be spending my loot on you instead BAMF (no offense to JLee).
     
  8. Jan 7, 2015 at 3:26 AM
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    weldertaco Mr.13%bodyfat

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    Yea I'll be here a year probably cause they have a fitter/welder position that makes about $5 more /hr than my position now.
    Goal is after 6 months to try and transfer to that position so I can't get some good experience with blueprints and fitting.

    Thennnn I'll have another thing to put on my resume when I start applying around for other jobs.
     
  9. Jan 7, 2015 at 4:46 AM
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    SMKYTXN If it can't be overdone it's not worth doing Vendor

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    Yup, nothing wrong with moving on Kase. I knew right off the bat that my first job out of school wasn't for me, but I gained a ton of experience while I was there. A year and a half later I was out the door and joining the company I'm with now. Learn all that you can and pad that resume.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2015 at 9:19 AM
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    My new plush office job is so much better than production welding. I don't miss that shit. A 23 year old kid telling senior welders what to do is kind of hard, but I know what it's like so I work with them as much as possible.
     
  12. Jan 7, 2015 at 1:07 PM
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    weldertaco Mr.13%bodyfat

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    Sub arc game going hard lol then the flux core tie in to finish off the seam where the sub arc machine can't

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  13. Jan 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM
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    Wasn't much said about this additionally. I'm at the crossroads now where my designs are stifled by other shops wanting money from me. Not an issue there, thats how business works. I welded in the 90's for a year + off and on. Decided I want to finally get my own welder now.

    The Lincoln 210 MP is what I was recommended by Lincoln directly when I expressed my interest and materials I planned on using. The guy said to grab one of the 210 MP.

    120V: 100A/19.0/40%
    230V: 200A/24V/25%

    Thoughts?

    Also, I was looking at the Guns on these.

    Magnum® PRO 175L Gun, 10 ft. (3.0 m) (K4076-1)

    Should I get a different gun right off the bat?

    Have 3 Huge argon tanks in the works and getting a CO2 tank too.

    -----If anyone has a source or deal for one of these I would be most grateful.
     
  14. Jan 10, 2015 at 12:10 AM
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    Same as everyone else; just take a look at what your anticipated requirements are going to be, and go from there.

    Personally, I'm not a fan of any sort of touch-screen on a welder. It's very easy to reach over and turn a knob; not so much to diddle fuck with a TFT screen with gloves on. I see it as a bling option that Lincoln is putting on their machines in an effort to compete with the manufacturers that are already dominant in the lower end inverter market.

    You said that you've got bottles of Argon coming, so I'm going to deduce that you're going to be doing a lot of aluminum welding.

    How thick? Do you want a pulse function?

    3/16", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4" mild steel? What kind of duty cycle?

    220/120/Multi Voltage?
     
  15. Jan 10, 2015 at 12:39 AM
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    I like the Multi Voltage option.

    1/4 in AL was the plan for the majority of the work.

    Some steel. No Immediate plans for steel, 3/16 - 3/8 would be what I end up with.

    Pulse, well, Doing the AL and it not being TIG, is the pulse feature really a factor? I'd love a machine that gave me the option of AC/DC TIG, MIG, STICK. From what I have been pricing, they are not inexpensive.

    Duty cycle. 0 again, would love a 100% Duty Cycle machine. Money is an issue right now. I am trying to fund this purchase with the profit made from selling the boxes I make. In doing that, keep the 'business' funds in the business. Hoping to be able to do more and invest in machines that I won't outgrow anytime soon.
     
  16. Jan 10, 2015 at 12:46 AM
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    As for the screen, well, it isn't touchscreen. it is still all just a bunch of buttons and dials. Screen is just for a more concise readout of them. Frankly with as inexpensive an option it is, surprised more manufactures hadn't switched to it yet/.

    As you said, turning dials is how its done. Well, they still have a 'computer' inside that it taking all the settings and ticking them off one by one as we set them. The screen here just puts them all in a better format. Otherwise, you are looking at an analog readout, which is fine, but I bet that this is the first 'test' of the digital screens and they might move more of the lines up to them. No clue, just a thought.



    Jake, for you and the rest of the people here using these tools frequently, you know better than I. Not going after BLING, going after functionality. From what I was told by the company, the largest dual voltage was the 210. Originally I was sold on the 180 dual. When I disclosed my intentions towards a specific material, he suggested that I go to the 210.



    Does anyone have one? Or any feedback on it specifically? or better options?
     
  17. Jan 10, 2015 at 1:33 AM
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    Ryan DCFS Elevator guy

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    I stopped into an airgas a few weeks ago and talked to the salesman for quite awhile.

    My main goal is to practice at home to be able To pass a 4g structural steel test and be able to do certified welds at work. At work we use maxstar 150s machines on either 110 or 220 (depending on what's available). I am also interested in learning to tig weld, and it's always handy to have flux core and mig capabilities; so I've had my eyes open for a multipurpose machine for awhile.

    When I first read about the lincoln and the price point it jumped to the top of my list. The salesman, however, wasn't super confident in the machine. In his opinion, it was designed to be a budget machine and compete with imported multiprocess machines, and the result is a bit gimmicky, flimsy, and lacking features to make it meet the price.

    His recommendation was to either save a bit more and go with the miller multimatic, or get a tig/stick maxstar 150; and in the future, purchase a standalone mig. He recommended that I stay with either lincoln or miller instead of tweco/thermal arc/ESAB because they are less popular on the west coast, meaning I would have more of a hassle trying to source parts or get a repair, and to avoid brands like Eastwood/everlast/longevity for that reason and less reliability.

    That being said, I still haven't made a decision. Despite the "negatives" pointed out by the salesman, I think the Lincoln 210 would more than meet my needs, and is probably a very good machine for the price, and would probably work pretty well for skygear too. For me, it's between the lincoln 210 and a maxstar 150 stl or sth, because I'm familiar with it and the portability is AMAZING (smaller than a lunchbox).
     
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    Never passed any certs, But I did TIG in the 90's. MUCH has changed.

    I agree that it is Gimicy with the screen. Still like that it is a Lincoln and has a little more punch than the 180.

    Really, I'm most likely not going to use this for anything other Aluminum MIG for quite awhile. If I buy it right, when the time comes, I will be able to sell it if I need to, and come out on top besides consumables.

    Theres friend trying to sell me his Lincoln MIG 185 right now. Would get it if it as a dual voltage. He is in a bad way for cash, so I know I could beat him up on price without an issue and come out on top with ALL his welding gear. He even offered to setup up my electrical box for 220 with an outlet as part of the 'deal'/ The issue is not my house. I know how to do that and without hazard or issue. The issue is when I am at someone else place.

    Just spec'd out those Maxstars. Beautiful! Just can't do AL. Looked at the dynasty TIG in the 200 size. over $3k. WOW. \\

    I do not have anywhere near that for this endeavor right now.


    My goal is to be able to do 1/4" AL with either MIG or TIG at a max of $1500. Thats tanks, consumables, guns, welder. Would love a Dual Voltage MultiProcess that did AC TIG too. Haven't found any of those yet.
     
  19. Jan 10, 2015 at 1:57 AM
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    I like that! "No need to diddle fuck with a bunch of buttons".

    I've used machines with digital readouts and pretty much hate them. I could not even tell you the settings I use for different thickness material. I just know where the indicator on the dial is supposed to reside.

    I will admit, being male and all, that gadgets do catch my eye, but with welders, simple is always much better.

    Like said earlier, think about what you plan on doing in the future, then decide what $ you can spend.

    I've said it before, quality MIG units are lifetime investments. You will not be buying a new one because you wore it out.

    I actually took a loan out for my first MIG unit. I was able to pick up extra work and pay the thing off in a very quickly. I would do it again.

    A bigger question you should ask yourself is if portability is more important? I like my dedicated units, they are not something that will get stole. Crooks like to lift stuff that they can carry and sell quickly. No one is is walking off with my MM250 with out blowing a grape.
     
  20. Jan 10, 2015 at 2:05 AM
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    Having or not having 230v is not really a big issue to me. If a person does not have 230v, then they can bring the work to me.

    I would think seriously about grabbing that setup, you could always sell it and get your dual voltage machine that you want. If someone is hurting for cash, you are in the driver seat.
     

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