New gen or not?

So hard to find a good 22R round lights

 

You say the 2nd gen is the best looking truck. So what exactly would you have them change? If you really wanted as big of a change as there was from gen 1 to gen 2, you are asking for a Tundra sized Tacoma. The Tacoma is the best selling truck in its category with its outdated interior, so it finally gets a modern interior and you complain that it isn't new. Well let me tell you, the Tacoma will never get anything brand new, and that is why it's the most dependable truck on the market. The Tacoma is too prized and prosperous to be the guinea pig for a bunch of gadgets, plus don't you notice that the vehicles that the Tacoma gets its "hand me downs" from are priced significantly higher? Well one reason is because they get the latest and greatest features and interiors. If the Tacoma did, there's a chance it wouldn't be the tried and true truck you are wishing was still in production and would still be priced higher than it is. So how does anybody benefit from that? It had a perfect platform that needed minor adjustments and has been minorly adjusted.

All I have left to address is the new front end and for that you have reason to dislike, I didn't like it at first either, but I guarantee if they released the same body with a different drive-train they would no longer be in the top market position. We asked for the Tacoma to finally be updated and it is. That interior is so nice I almost don't even want to take it off road. Not to mention you don't even have the engine numbers yet nor have you noticed that the cramped cab has been spaced out by implementing the thinner center console and more headroom, and possibly thinner doors but we don't know yet because no one's been in one. I'm not implying that everyone should like this new truck because no one ever likes a new generation when it comes out and evidently there are people who don't even like the 2nd gen, but you're paying so much attention to how it's not a 2nd gen that you don't want to focus on what the truck has to offer.

And no I don't have a hard on for the 3rd gen because I'm not buying a new truck for years to come.

 

Not sure if you are talking to me in particular, but I don't have a huge problem with them doing a mild refresh. I would have preferred a full redesign after 10 years for a highly profitable vehicle that sells 150K units per year. But the mechanical upgrades are - barely - enough to get me interested in plunking down my money, despite the fact that I owned a Gen 2 six years ago.

I do have a problem with them making it look stupid. I always thought the Tacoma was the best looking truck on the market. I thought Toyota would work their asses off to make sure that a refresh/new version would look damned good. Instead I think they relied on a bunch of marketing data that said Americans like the look of the Ram and the Fusion. I actually think those are both pretty decent looking vehicles on their own too - but even I could have told them that a Tacoma/Ram/Fusion/Mitsubishi mashup would look moronic. And it does.

If this were a good looking heavy refresh, or a good looking all-new vehicle, I don't think you would see people on here complaining. But it's not. And a $2.00 GoPro mount doesn't make up for that.

 

Agree 100%, it seems like a very last minute design approach to the outside. The inside and the neat new gadgets are great but that exterior is horrible and even non taco people say the same. Come on Toyota you had 10 years to get it right, think thats why a lot of people are upset a little bit, they turned great looking name into a fugly ass design. The 1st gens still look amazing and the 2nd gens have a soon to be classic look, I'm not so sure with this plastic cheesy new design.

 

The 2016 Tacoma is going to be like the 2012 Civic when the masses disliked the new civic, it was refreshed for 2013.

 

No sir, not directed towards anyone in particular. I have just seen a plethora of complaints about it and I feel like there is no move Toyota could have made that would please everybody.

Like I said, the front end is fair to dislike. I didn't even like it at first but it's growing on me slowly. But honestly, I'm no designer. I would have no idea how to make that front end look good. And I may be uninformed about what mechanical upgrades are available, but what's left to be desired mechanically? Other than diesel, blah blah.

 

I think they did great with the interior and they did give a new powertrain option which will likely be great and the off road features are really cool. But that exterior is hideous, no-flo just hard to fall in love with. But I'm not a designer either I just feel they could have done better. Just looks cheesy. And Tacomas have never looked cheesy, always classy.

 

I think you're jealous that the gen 1 doubled in size for gen 2 (hardly) and the gen 2 remained the same size for gen 3.

Agreeable points. You're not who I was referring to in my little rant, then, and I hope the exterior grows on you as well as everyone else. The Tacoma is just such a great truck that I would hate to see it fail now.

 

Amarok TDI

 

You're right that they can't please everyone. But from the comments I have seen online, the people on here are actually more forgiving than most. The thing that saddened me was seeing the Gen 2 version right up there next to the Gen 3. It shines a light on how badly they failed. They made the face bigger, the nose huge, and the eyes smaller. And then added a bunch of finicky plastic detailing. And threw an apron on at the end.

If they had just been honest and made a cleaner version of the last truck, with more modern surfacing and more modern headlights, I think they could have been okay. But instead they were trying to hide the fact that it's basically the same truck underneath. They wanted to make it look dramatically different, somehow. So they added three inches of puff and detailing. And that makes me sad, because much as I like the Tacoma, I don't want to buy something that looks like the designers were desperately scrounging around on the floor for new ideas. I like honesty in trucks, not a big pile of fake window dressing.

 

It won't too many fanboys who are already putting in orders at dealers to trade in their 2014s cause its no longer the latest/greatest (seriously). I fear for my trucks resale value cause of this. Oh well I bought mine to keep till its paid off at least.

 

I hope it fails too. Toyota needs something to knock them upside the head and let them know that people, even their fans, won't just choke down anything.

 

I know that none of us really like change and we would just love to see a 2nd gen with all the imperfections cut out. I think the surfacing and headlights are modern but that is not to say they're perfect or were the best way to go. As for the apron, well that had to happen. Any new truck trying to prove it is more useful than a full size (By size, price, and MPGs) is going to have that air dam. If it wasn't there, they would say, "Damn, we did great but we could have beat everybody by 2 more MPG if we just threw that air dam on there".

That truck is going to work for 90% of the market, daily commuters who want good MPG and occasionally tow something. For those of us who take it up a notch, we simply buy the offroad and unbolt the dam.

 

Agreed but people will jump cause they have to have the latest and greatest and Toyota will pat themselves on the back thinking they gave us exactly what we wanted.

 

I hope it does not fail because I fear it would be discontinued. At best, a quick refresh once they drop below 160K sales. I personally like it now but I would love to see it made to look better.

 

Lets be real here , it's not gonna fail

 

Considering that there were hundreds of people today reading the threads, and tens of thousands reading the news about the refresh, I didn't see that many people saying they would actually buy one.

 

Or, you know, people have different opinions of what looks good. Or do we not tolerate differences?

To be honest even though there isn't anything wrong with the 1st gen, if a truck were made today that looked like that, who would buy it?

 

Agreed - it will get some boost like any new model. It's just a question of how big that boost is, and how big the boost is to Colorado/Canyon sales after today. I guarantee both Toyota and Chevy will be watching that.