2016 Tacoma engine

A 4 cylinder diesel would work and would be awesome. I think the Colorado and Frontier with diesel option will force Toyota to at least look at the possibility of expanding into it or they'll lose customers. Like I've said before, I have driven a 2.1L I-4 Sprinter before and if it has enough power to effortlessly move a vehicle that gets up to 15k + gcwr, a reasonable person would assume that it could move a 4500 pound MIDSIZE truck.


I wen't through my 06 DCSB taco and 05 DC Tundra but had to get rid of both for different reasons. When I'm ready for a new truck, it'll be something that has power below 3000 rpm, and I think a diesel Frontier or Colorado will be good choices because they should be able to hit 30+ mpg on the highway easily.

 

No, people who want V8 or Diesel are people who use their Tacoma as a truck not for shopping mall curb offroading, and own or drive other Toyotas with V8 or Diesel.
My other Toyota truck has 5.7 V8 and I love the low end torque in it. Gas mileage is bad but towing anything is easy. It climbs hills with no sweat.
1GR is good engine but its undersized for that double cab long bad, especially when towing. Truck needs more low end Torque.
3.5 can only make things worse not better.
I bought my 2gen and compared to my 1gen that was massive step up.
3.5 is going backwards.
I am pretty sure many people who had 1gen and got 2gen will tell you that even so 1gr was not Diesel it was massive step up from 1Gen 2.7 or even 3.sl0 v6.

 

They have technology these days to make more power with less displacement. You are seriously freaking the f out. wait for the truck to come out and go for a test drive.

 

No point of doing test drive unless they have real engine in that thing.
If I wanted truck with minivan engine in it I could buy Ridgeline.

Oh wait, I can not because nobody wanted to buy Truck with minivan engine in it so its discontinued

 

Yeah, and those 1,238 people will buy a Frontier. Oh well.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE ACTUAL FIGURES ARE GOING TO BE!

YOU ALSO HOW NO IDEA THAT THEY WONT OFFER A V8!

STFU ALREADY!

What is it with some people who aren't happy unless they're bitching about something. Don't buy a new Tacoma. Nobody here cares. Seriously.

BTW, I tow with my Tacoma within reason and would NOT want a V8 for all the same reasons I sold my Tundra for a V8. If you want to pull a horse trailer you don't want a Tacoma anyway. It's simply, this is a MIDSIZE TRUCK and not a FULL SIZE TRUCK! Look at how all of our vehicles keep growing because people want bigger and bigger and bigger but don't want to get the actual bigger vehicle. They have some idiotic desire to make THEIR vehicle larger. If you plan to tow large trailer extensively what you want is a full size truck. Stop ruining a perfectly sized and powered midsize truck with your idiotic ideas. Glad Toyota doesn't listen to people like you who are trying to win ePeen contests with their Tacoma and how manly they use it.

 

Actually, the downfall to that truck wasn't the engine but the fact that it was a truck on a minivan frame with a payload and tow rating of zero. Once that cat got out of the bag they were worthless and it wouldn't have mattered if it had your precious V8 in it.

Maybe if they would have crammed a diesel into it it would be the hottest truck in America still today! ROFL

Some people...

 

Just like the toyota rep said, the diesel engine is not logical, the added costs to add emissions to the diesel increases the cost approx $3000 and then the cost of diesel being so high outweighs the benefits of owning one. Little diesels have low hp and higher tq, but Im pretty sure this new 3.5l is going to leave nothing to be desired about a diesel.

 

I can't help but agree with these statements. Diesel guys are crazy. What Toyota said is absolutely true. It will be very expensive to try and keep diesels in the market as the emissions standards keep getting tougher. There's no money in developing an engine for North America if they're going to have to redesign it within the next 5-10 years for a truck that sells a few hundred thousand units.

A V8? Really? Toyota doesn't have any truck V8's that have a sniff of fuel economy and you want to stick it in a truck where people constantly look consciously at there fuel economy? They'd never sell. Check out the Colorado 5.3L numbers before they discontinued. They were terrible! 1/4 tons are not big or tough enough to take advantage of the towing strength of the larger motors you want.

 

Yes because listening to soccer dad crowd had worked out for Ridgeline so well
Nobody is asking for Tacoma to get bigger but either get a "real" engine back in it or get some option of Diesel or V8.
Or turn Tacoma back to original size. Right now Toyota is going Ridgeline path. Next thing you know, rear axle will be replaced with IFS.
If you want something to tow trailer with Canoe why not get Rav 4 with pretty much the same engine.
Truck supposed to be a truck not a lifted Sienna.

 

I used to have a LEXUS GX470 with 4.7L V8, I now have a 2015 GX460 with 4.6L V8. Is that down sizing, yes. Is the 4.6 worse than 4.7, NO.

I am like the others 120000 Tacoma buyers who don't tow often, like truck, love good mileage...and most importantly buy new cars/trucks every 3-5 years (we keep the economy going) and Toyota loves these people so they came with the truck that satisfies us (not you , the minority).

Cost vs benefit. ROI case analysis people.

 

Not logical? Isn't Toyota the biggest auto manufacturer in the world? Surely they could meet current emission standards. I mean, the 2.8L Duramax and I-4 Cummins will meet emissions, why can't Toyota? What if they just went back to the 3.4L V6 because "they couldn't meet current emissions standards" with anything else? Would you still think Toyota is awesome? They need to step up. Diesel isn't any more expensive than unleaded right now and usually isn't too much more but people like to act like its double or triple the price.

The 2.8L Duramax diesel will make 200hp and 369 torque at 2000 rpm, I'd rather have that in a small truck over a high strung 3.5L V6, but hey that's just me.

 

I for one would first prefer a diesel... but not happening for at least a few years. I however do not think the 3.5L is a step backwards... but of course, I don't tow. I'd bet if I did I still wouldn't have a problem with it because I wouldn't be towing something huge/overly heavy, and if I did, I'd get the Tundra.

 

Toyota missed the boat with not offering the Hino diesel / electric hybrid

 

you hit the nail on the head... those who really need to tow a lot? tundra.

the 3.5L is just fine.

 

You add nothing useful to this conversation.

 

They SHOULD offer a v8 in a limited/special edition race truck, like the xrunner.... the fact that they used to same engine as stock Tacomas was disappointing.... maybe not in all, but a small v8 for a special edition racing model (bring back the xrunner) would make sense for some sales. I bet they would sell everyone of them.

 

Maybe some of had Tundras and are sick of a big ass truck. Still tow, so this new smaller engine will suck, will have to work harder and rev higher to get things moving. Put the pussy engine on the option sheet, but also put in an option that has some low end balls. Some one said it earlier, no replacement for displacement. No more truck, just a car with a bed, that's where this truck line is going.

 

We still don't know that they won't. Or a V8. Or a diesel for that matter. So much negativity over a couple of pictures. lol

 

I don't tow, but I do think our truck could be made faster.

 

Well , when they announced there would be no diesel option I took that to mean there would be no diesel option