2016 Tacoma engine

Toyota will have to hit CAFE numbers just like all automakers. I think the new 3.5L is a move in that direction and will be adequate. I think the bigger question will be reliability but I wouldn't be AT ALL surprised to eventually see Toyota offer a Hybrid Tacoma.

 

I bet they dont put all the crap on thd motor that is done In the states....

 

Good thing Toyota ignores cry babies like BlueT, otherwise we would still have carbureted 4 cyl engines making 90hp.

 

Here

http://www.off-road.com/blog/2015/01/12/diesel-tacoma-toyota-chief-engineer-says-dont-count-on-it/

 

And the same number saying the truck and motor will be great and they have seen nothing but pictures and an ad by the company......

 

No because Tacoma is becoming lifted minivan.

I am surprised how many people want Tacoma to be like Ridgeline, (Comforts, small efficient engine) yet they bought Tacoma when clearly Ridgeline was better option for them.
You dont need frame if you do not tow anything big. In Ridgeline you had leather seats, moonroof and all the rest of the gizmos people want. Not to mention front/rear IFS that made better, more comfortable ride.
So why did you buy Tacoma when Ridgeline was clearly better option for you?
You dont tow, you dont take truck off the shopping mall parking lot. You could have 3.5 L and great ride that matches your purse.

I get it, you saw all those commercials where people take Toyota trucks to middle of nowhere, and you tought "oh If I can buy truck like that, women will think I am very manly "

 

The Ridgeline's gas mileage isn't any better than ours.

 

There is no replacement for displacement. You are tunning one to a way higher out put. Both engines at the same tune, the bigger one wins. No amount of electronics is going to make a smaller engine ( even .5 liter smaller) make the same torque as the bigger engine at lower rpm.
Horsepower is a derivitive of torque, the higher the same power in the rev band (torque ) the higher the HP reading. No amount of electronics is going to fix that.

 

they've already announced the engine sizes.

 

And it needs to be real numbers that can be found on a dino not a lab rat cook the books number.

 

I don't think this guy is going to the mall with this hilux, oh!! and BTW is a 4cyl 2.7L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a00qN8_BNxo

 

V6 with a Manual Trans

I'm Sold

 

So even though numbers aren't confirmed yet. Our 4.0 puts out 236HP / 266TQ. The 3.5L is reported to put out anywhere from 280~310HP / 280 TQ. Not seeing the issue. I'm sure the direct injection has nothing to do with this though.

 

I'd do that in a 2016

 

It isn't that they can't, it is that they feel it is not a good investment. There certainly is a diesel market. But there is also a hot pink truck market too. Nonetheless they don't sell hot pink trucks, not enough people will buy them to justify the cost of setting up the paint booth in the factory. Just because you and two friends want to buy something, and just because another manufacturer has decided to go down that path doesn't make it a good decision.

As to the same price, well right now I'm seeing about $2.00 vs $2.60 which is a 25% spread. Since diesels run only about 25% more efficient to begin with that means the diesel will have no cost savings at all in the US market. And will cost $3K more up front with higher maintenance costs as well. So it is a boondoggle when it comes to efficiency and the customers pocket book.

Now of course there are reasons beyond just efficiency for a diesel, but in the end the diesel really isn't bringing much to the table that a gasoline engine can't for this size of a power plant.

Will the GM sell some diesel mid size trucks? I'm sure they will. Will it prove to have been a useful investment? Hmmmm.... Track record for GM says their engineering and business decisions lead to government bailouts saving them from bankruptcy. I'll put my dollar on Toyota's track record in this case.

 

It's going to be putting those numbers in at a way higher rpm than the 4.0, so when you take off the line towing something the power just isn't there, it's up at 3 grand on the tack.

 

Actually there is, it's called a turbo or supercharger

 

Go look at hp & tq numbers from 5 or 6 decades ago from big V8's & then come back & try that again.

 

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