Shackle Flip Kit - The Official Armor Tech Offroad Thread!

Hey guys. I've looked through this entire thread and didn't see this. Well as far as the shocks. I'm running the standard allpro leafs. Which this fits. But I have 10" fox 2.5's. 28.4 extended and 18.5 compressed. I'll be running 2.0x3 fox air bumps and I think I'll be doing some limit straps, depends. Would this suffice? Thanks.

 

Sounds like it should definitely work. Especially if you are using limiting straps and bump stops. Just make sure that you are within range of your shocks. Test it out. I tested mine at a loading area behind a grocery store before i took it off road and wheeled it

 

Do the shackle flip then flex it out, measure and check. Only way to be sure.

 

Thanks! Good idea.

 

We've been working on shock data to go with the shackle flips lately and I finally have some info about this. I don't have any all pro springs but I have info that you can use to hopefully compare.

Stock Springs
The FULL unbumped travel of the spring, all the way to the over loads when compressed you should see something like the following travel numbers.

Amount of compression travel - 3.75 inches
Amount of extension travel - 5.25 inches
Shock mounting length between stock mounts compressed - 16.25 inches
Shock mounting length between stock mounts extended - 25.25 inches

This compression is too far and seriously negatively archs the spring, I'd recommend taking at least 1 inch of compression out with the bumpers.

OME Dakars
These numbers are for the full intended travel of the OME springs, which includes negative arch. People who will not accept that OME springs are designed to safely achieve negative arch will not see these compression numbers. We are NOT going to debate the intended travel of these springs, that is a conversation that we have had with ARB/OME. You are welcome to do the same.

Amount of compression travel - 3.25 inches
Amount of extension travel - 5.75 inches
Shock mounting length between stock mounts compressed - 19.08 inches
Shock mounting length between stock mounts extended - 28.08 inches


Softtaco, if your travel numbers are anything like the OME springs it looks like you'll be fine. You'll need to adjust the bump stops to take out a bit of compression, and I'd probably still run limit straps just in case. They are cheaper than a new pair of shocks! Our new kit will most likely include limit straps on a 12 inch shock.

 

Adam do you guys plan on releasing some upgraded shackles?

 

Hey thanks so much for the information! This helps. Looks like I'll be picking a set of these up! Thanks Adam!

 

I'm looking into this as well, as I am running 25.19 extended and 15.19 collapsed Fox 10" shocks with 2.25" lift. I'm wondering if this'll work for mine as well? I'm a little too lazy to do the math right now. Haha.

 

Flex the truck out with no shocks in the back and measure. Will tell you everything you need to know.

 

Too much work. Lol. It was a total bitch to put them on, on the lower mounts, and I really don't feel like unbolting the air bumps, then unbolting the shocks from the lower mount just to make a few measurements. Otherwise I'd be game. The only time those rears will ever come off again is either for a 12" stroke upgrade or when they need to be rebuilt and are leaking out fluid. Haha.

 

HAHAHAH!! I hear ya!

 

By those numbers, it sounds like your shocks are for stock springs, not lifted springs. Currently with 2 inch lift springs and stock shackle mounts, you're shocks are almost certainly the thing limiting your down travel. I would say you need to install new shocks or limit straps or you run the very real risk of blowing out the shocks. Adding a shackle flip will add to the extended length.

Yep, and add 2 inches to the extended length for the travel gained with the shackle flips.

 

Stay tuned radio ranger. It's possible that we're just waiting on stuff from laser...

 

Hmmmmm. Maybe I'll wait a little longer than.....

 

This makes me happy in pants

 

Are you guys looking for stock length or something to help lift?

 

I am personally not really looking for any more lift. More looking for higher quality, greasable, and possibly have a creeper joint.

 

It's actually the leafs that are limiting the down travel.

 

Pretty much this.

 

You used quality and a creeper brand part in the same sentence? We can help with the quality, but it won't involve that brand! Something more like QA1, a joint that will last. But there's bigger problems....

I doubt we'll be doing any shackles with the flex joints in them. The spacing just doesn't work. They are bigger around than the factory bushing, requiring a different shackle flip. The bodies are also very narrow, creating a problem for keeping stresses down and the ability to fully weld the bracket to the joint. I've looked at it 6 ways from Sunday and it just isn't working out.